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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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my gas and brake pedals are harder to push down i think its the traction button ive been playing with it because i noticed when i pished it the dash wouldnt say on it always says traction off........so is it the traction button?
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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Umm...
at a compleat stop, if you press the traction button next to the shifter, the light on the dash continues to Read Traction Off? If so..is your Anti-lcok(ABS) light illuminated as well.
The traction control will not effect gas pedal firmness. You may feel a grumble from the brake pedal, this is normal right after start up on the first few initial stops as the ABS system is in test mode, after that it will only grumble if you are on ice with the brakes applied and it senses one wheel locking up over another.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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To my knowledge the TC button is completely unrelated to the throttle and the master cylinder. That has to do with the programming in the PCM to keep you from spinning the tires as much.

Also..there is not a traction on light. Only off.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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I think when the traction control actually does go on (if you are spinning your tires) it does apply the brakes. I know whenever I would forget to turn it off it sounded like the ABS was kicking in.
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To my knowledge the TC button is completely unrelated to the throttle and the master cylinder. That has to do with the programming in the PCM to keep you from spinning the tires as much.

Also..there is not a traction on light. Only off.
in a 1992 Bonneville, its Brake pressure controlled, the newer years...96+ (i belive) retard igntion timing.
say in my 93, applies brakes in small pulses ONLY, same for 1992
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Right, but that shouldn't affect the pedal pushing pressure.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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is it the weather makin them to push down because its pretty cold here in chicago
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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That would be my guess. I firmly believe they get stiffer when it is bitter cold out.
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Just a stupid thought, but is your floor mat pushed all the way up against the firewall and interfering with the pedals?
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The throttle cable is supposed to be dry lubricated, right? Maybe someone greased the thing once and the grease got more viscous in the cold. Are the pedals sluggish to release?
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