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DING DING DING bout to drive me nuts

Old Sep 15, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by greenmoose92
a oil pump and a new crank kit i think not i've had motor that had 25lbs when they started up cold and they run fine its not 0 oil pressure and its not 5 lbs when hot idleing like i had in my last car as long as its got oil pressure i think i can deal with the ding ding ding
Well I can assure you that the "dinging" is the least of your problems here. I've seen 6 of these same engines in the last month with this problem now (including yours). I can tell you from my own expierence (mine is shot too) that it will get worse & if it does that estimate for the Crank Kit & Oil Pump will turn into a new Conn Rod & Block too. As when the bearing finally gives out it will take out the Conn Rod journal & or the Main Crank Journal too. Right now I quoted the "Cheap" fix. Trust me on this one, I work with alot of engines in a day at Work (Pontiac Dealership) & I've been in this business for over 25 years now too. BTW: Yes, I'm an old fart! Just ask Willwren!
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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Whats my oil problem? lol.. my cars gauge goes to zero.. but I dont care.. I turn the music up! can't even hear the ding.. ding... ding...
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1992 trofeo
Whats my oil problem? lol.. my cars gauge goes to zero.. but I dont care.. I turn the music up! can't even hear the ding.. ding... ding...
Why not just unplug the sensor on the oil filter adapter? No signal = no damn dinging!
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oil filter adapter? eha??
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 1992 trofeo
oil filter adapter? eha??
Yeah...That pot metal aluminum thing that your oil filter screws onto! If you look from the top of the Passenger side fender straight down at it, you'll see it (the sensor that is) there.
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Thats a sensor? woah
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1992 trofeo
Thats a sensor? woah
The sensor screws onto that adapter dumbass!
I give up explaining this to you too......


For the rest of you people, you may be able to just get away with an Oil Pump if your Oil Pressure is weak.
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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my car used to do that when the battery cable was coming loose, so I just went out any bought a new battery terminal bolt
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Originally Posted by DeathRat
Originally Posted by greenmoose92
a oil pump and a new crank kit i think not i've had motor that had 25lbs when they started up cold and they run fine its not 0 oil pressure and its not 5 lbs when hot idleing like i had in my last car as long as its got oil pressure i think i can deal with the ding ding ding
Well I can assure you that the "dinging" is the least of your problems here. I've seen 6 of these same engines in the last month with this problem now (including yours). I can tell you from my own expierence (mine is shot too) that it will get worse & if it does that estimate for the Crank Kit & Oil Pump will turn into a new Conn Rod & Block too. As when the bearing finally gives out it will take out the Conn Rod journal & or the Main Crank Journal too. Right now I quoted the "Cheap" fix. Trust me on this one, I work with alot of engines in a day at Work (Pontiac Dealership) & I've been in this business for over 25 years now too. BTW: Yes, I'm an old fart! Just ask Willwren!
I just picked up a 92 SSEi for $500. The guy said the oil filter wasn't put on correctly and no there'* a clicking over 2500rpm. Runs great under 2500. Same problem??? Haven't heard any dings at the same time.
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hmm...could you describe this clicking? Does it happen if you hit the gas at idle too? I mean if you bring it up to about 1500rpm quickly and immediately release the pedal does it make that noise on the way down? Almost like something is loose inside? I'm having a similar problem so I could use the best description of the problem you can give ...About the oil pressure problem. Raise the car up and pull the passenger side tire off. Behind it there is a shield with what look like bolts holding it on. Grab the heads with a pair of pliers and pull and they will come out. Pull that shield off. Right infront of you should be the oil filter assembly. There are 4 botls holding it on. Remove the oil pressure sensor, any lines going to the oil cooler, and the 4 bolts holding the filter assembly on. Make sure you remove the 4 bolts progressively and move them each about 1/4" then move to the next one and keep doing that until you get them all out. Then try as much as possible to pull it away from the block before pulling down. There is a spring and plunger that will almost jump out at you. Pull the spring and plunger out and carefully stretch the spring about 1/4". Make sure the stretch didn't happen only on the ends of the spring. Try to spread the stretch out over the length of the spring, its not difficult just grab different parts and pull then move up the spring and pull some more. Replace the spring into the block and put the plunger over it. Reinstall everything insuring to progressively tighten the bolts 1/4" at a time to ensure an even setting. That should raise your oil pressure. There is a chart floating around somewhere about exactly how much stretch = how much oil pressure but 1/4" or less should be enough to get a good boost in pressure. I've run 90psi through my system when I prelubed it and there weren't any problems and if you're getting 20psi right now 1/4" should get you back up to the 40psi range. Thats probably not a fix but it should buy you plenty of time.
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