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Old 02-02-2006, 12:26 PM
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Well...multiple answers for that one.

The Best way would be to remove the seats and pull the carpet and matting, dry and replace. That way you could go ahead and look at your electric buss and associated wiring for corrosion, etc.

Next best would be a dry garage and a space heater with fan. Set up space heater outside car and set fan to catch heated air and blow at floor of car (driver'* side first). Remember that the carpet and padding hold a lot of water so, surface dryness does not mean everything is dried. Check for dryness by pulling up carpet and feeling underneath.

If that moisture is left there too long your problems will get more serious.
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Is it hard to remove/install the seats. This is my car(16 year old) and I have like no place to store it if I were to remove a bunch of stuff for an extended period of time. If it'* not hard to remove seats then I would just remove them use a heated garage and fans to dry it out...??? :?
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Is it hard to remove/install the seats. This is my car(16 year old) and I have like no place to store it if I were to remove a bunch of stuff for an extended period of time. If it'* not hard to remove seats then I would just remove them use a heated garage and fans to dry it out...??? :?
4 nuts on each seat and some electrical connections. Very easy and quick.
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Just recently there was a thread where people were talking about how they removed the seats and pulled the carpet, then put the seats back in *without* the carpet, so they could still drive their car during the weeks that they spent troubleshooting their problems and washed and dried out their carpet.

There are other links here about the corroding ground bars on the floors that have caused lots of problems like yours (door locks always seem to be common to everyone with the problem). You should be able to remove the seats, some trim, and the carpet to get to them, and put your seats back in if you need to drive the car.

There are many other links about fixing the water leaks that cause the problem to begin with. There are so many possible locations, including door weatherstripping and body panels where they meet the firewall, that it'* impossible to say where your leak is from. Leaks have driven some people here practically to insanity, and there are many good threads by people that have stuck it out and fixed leak after leak after leak until they were finally dry. Follow their advice and don't ignore this one, it can cause LOTS of problems!
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Originally Posted by Goo551
Yes it is a little wet... didn't surprise me living in Michigan and with our 10 degree weather and 50 the next day kind of routine it'* kind of expect. I had a concern awhile back that all the water could possibly mess something up :( I guess I was right?
You might get the battery itself checked. How old is it? Are all the cells working correctly?

You also could pull the carpet up next to the sills to expose the connectors there which have lots of wires and you could check the grounds next to the driver'* left foot by the parking brake.
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Have you tried hitting the connectors under the carpet next to the driver'* seat and passenger seat to make any corrosion give better contact?
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The pic right above is what I was getting at with the wet carpet. Pull it back w/o removing everything and look for corrosion on this ground buss. You might not have enough water for this to be the issue. And you might have enough.
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That picture above, right about where the cord is out and laying on the carpet my little plasitc cover that holds the carpet down has a piece miss good guess maybe 4x2 in give or take I think that'* what is causing most of my problems seeing as how I wouldn't doubt snow having gotten in there. It sucks. But I plan on taking my car to my dad'* heated garage this weekend and checking everything out because I don't want it to get worse and with cars being how they are running on pure electronics these days... I'd rather fix it before something expensive like the brain box or whatever frying... that'd be no good. Also about driving around with the carpet out... That would leave everything exposed wouldn't it? Have to be real careful in that case? Couldn't I just lay some towels over it just incase to protect stuff if in fact I do that?
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that connector is merely grounding...not power.
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Ok so I guess I'll just pullout the seats and such this weekend and dry everything out. As for the battery it'* new... not even a year old. I load tested it and all that around 2 months ago as well.
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If you can park in a garage and can put a household fan in the car and just let it run, with the carpet pulled up that should leach a lot of moisture out. Leave the windows down to allow air flow.

I also have dried out cars in winter when the air is very low humidity by leaving the windows open a few inches and letting the wind blow through the car. It depends on the relative humidity and temps where you are located.

Here'* another discussion about problems with connectors too wet too long.
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=40656


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