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Old 03-03-2008, 04:20 PM   #1
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My Bonne tends to pull to the right and I have already taken it to get aligned twice. I have brand spankin new tires on it and all related suspension pieces (tie rods, ball joints, etc...) have been checked and are all ok. I know that sometimes the plane of the road might cause a pull but the pull is there even on a flat road or surface (mall parking lot, etc...) It'* not a heavy pull but significant enough to annoy the tar out of me. Both times I took my Bonne to get aligned at NTB and both times I noticed that the tech did not adjust the rear wheels. According to NTB there is no adjustment for the rear???? Can someone clarify this for me? I am pretty sure that there has to be an adjustment for the rear because I saw a rear tie rod (or something similar looking). Am I wrong?? Shouldn't the rears be adjusted along with the fronts? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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There are several adjustments that can be made to the rear suspension. A 4-wheel alignment is the proper action to take , especially after suspension component replacement.
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No Adjustment for the rear?? Are they nuts?

On the 87-99 Bonneville there is adjustment for Camber and Toe for the rear...

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There are several adjustments that can be made to the rear suspension. A 4-wheel alignment is the proper action to take , especially after suspension component replacement.


That'* what I thought and that is what I paid for (four wheel aligment). I am going to have to go back to NTB and rattle some cages. Thanks!
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No Adjustment for the rear?? Are they nuts?

On the 87-99 Bonneville there is adjustment for Camber and Toe for the rear...

Is there Camber adjustment for the front?
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There are several adjustments that can be made to the rear suspension. A 4-wheel alignment is the proper action to take , especially after suspension component replacement.


That'* what I thought and that is what I paid for (four wheel aligment). I am going to have to go back to NTB and rattle some cages. Thanks!

Just like Echo said.. And I'll add to it... When you replace the components and even if you mark the components there is a 99.999999% chance that you will be off and require an alignment.. And when an alignment is done on these cars you do have to align all 4 corners...

I can't believe a shop would only do the front... Its just crazy.. I'd shake those cages up too

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No Adjustment for the rear?? Are they nuts?

On the 87-99 Bonneville there is adjustment for Chamber and Toe for the rear...

Is there Camber adjustment for the front?
Yes Camber and Toe for the front as well, and in extreme cases the Castor can be adjusted as well but chances are you will never have to adjust the Castor on these cars

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No Adjustment for the rear?? Are they nuts?

On the 87-99 Bonneville there is adjustment for Chamber and Toe for the rear...

Is there Camber adjustment for the front?
Yes Camber and Toe for the front as well, and in extreme cases the Castor can be adjusted as well but chances are you will never have to adjust the Castor on these cars
Interesting.... The tech also said there is no Camber adjustment for the front. Where can the camber adjustment for the front be found?
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Being that you have a 99 SLE, you do have Adjustment for Camber... Take the top of the wheel, camber is more or less the lean of the wheel towards and away from the car, Toe in a manner of sorts is the angle( or turn ) of the wheel with the steering wheel straight...

The front and rear of your car have these adjustments...

I have worked on several cars that were pretty much set it and for get it and there was no adjustment for Camber...

But the 87-99 Bonneville isn't one of those set it and forget it cars.. Our cars require adjustment, and both Toe and Camber are adjustable... Its evident to me that the Tech had no idea what he was talking about..

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Being that you have a 99 SLE, you do have Adjustment for Camber... Take the top of the wheel, camber is more or less the lean of the wheel towards and away from the car, Toe in a manner of sorts is the angle( or turn ) of the wheel with the steering wheel straight...

The front and rear of your car have these adjustments...

I have worked on several cars that were pretty much set it and for get it and there was no adjustment for Camber...

But the 87-99 Bonneville isn't one of those set it and forget it cars.. Our cars require adjustment, and both Toe and Camber are adjustable... Its evident to me that the Tech had no idea what he was talking about..
Oh I totally agree with you. The tech'* at this NTB are obviously inexperienced. I am going to ask for a full refund and take my Bonne to someone who knows what they are doing. Thanks for the help guys.
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