1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

Adding S/C - 92-93????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 15, 2005 | 01:11 PM
  #1  
kwikshifter's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
kwikshifter is on a distinguished road
Default Adding */C - 92-93????

I am getting a 92 or 93 L67. It has rebuilt heads, etc but a broken rod. Can I use the parts off of this motor on a similar year n/a motor(short block) to make it right? I know there are a lot of differences in Series 2 */c and n/a engines, but thought the series 1 motors were basically the same.
Reply
Old May 15, 2005 | 02:28 PM
  #2  
BillBoost37's Avatar
DINOSAURUS BOOSTUS

Expert Gearhead
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 41,391
Likes: 30
From: Enfield, CT
BillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of light
Default

The motors are not supposed to be the same. The SC whether S1 or S2 are totally different everything I've read. I think you need a SC to get parts from.
Reply
Old May 15, 2005 | 05:42 PM
  #3  
1993 SLE's Avatar
Senior Member
Certified Car Nut
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 19,756
Likes: 1
1993 SLE is on a distinguished road
Default

you will need to get parts from a Series one L67
Reply
Old May 15, 2005 | 11:28 PM
  #4  
llBlazin_llLo's Avatar
Senior Member
Posts like a Corvette
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,256
Likes: 0
From: Bolingbrook, IL Location: Clarkston, MI
llBlazin_llLo is on a distinguished road
Default

No problem . . . . . . It can be done.

Just use a L27 long block and install all the L67 stuff. (making it sound easy) (LIM, M62, fuel rail/injectors, misc. brackets (map, etc.), dampener, pulley/alt. bracket, etc.)
Reply
Old May 15, 2005 | 11:41 PM
  #5  
Damemorder's Avatar
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 6,042
Likes: 5
From: Texarkana, Texas
Damemorder is on a distinguished road
Default

Originally Posted by llBlazin_llLo
No problem . . . . . . It can be done.

Just use a L27 long block and install all the L67 stuff. (making it sound easy) (LIM, M62, fuel rail/injectors, misc. brackets (map, etc.), dampener, pulley/alt. bracket, etc.)
Yup.
Reply
Old May 16, 2005 | 12:25 AM
  #6  
willwren's Avatar
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11
Likes: 13
willwren is on a distinguished road
Default

Transmission and PCM (for the gear change).

Sell the non-supercharged car and buy an SSEi. It'* alot cheaper.
Reply
Old May 16, 2005 | 01:01 AM
  #7  
llBlazin_llLo's Avatar
Senior Member
Posts like a Corvette
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,256
Likes: 0
From: Bolingbrook, IL Location: Clarkston, MI
llBlazin_llLo is on a distinguished road
Default

Originally Posted by willwren
Transmission and PCM (for the gear change).

Sell the non-supercharged car and buy an SSEi. It'* alot cheaper.
I Read his post wrong!

It wouldn't be very expensive, you just need to know what you are doing and be able to work on your car. Your just going to have to be easy on the trans or buy a LSD.

On the PCM you are going to have start off with a stock L67 chip mapping and change:
- trans gearing
- heated 02
- wire in a MAP sensor.
Reply
Old May 16, 2005 | 01:18 AM
  #8  
DrJay's Avatar
Senior Member
Certified GM nut
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,095
Likes: 0
From: Georgia
DrJay is on a distinguished road
Default

Everything I've read says they're close enough to the same engine. If you had a broken L67 and L27 you could create one good L67 out of it, but it'* pretty complex to do simply for the supercharger.

For good reading: http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...ic.php?t=24923
Reply
Old May 16, 2005 | 07:38 AM
  #9  
BillBoost37's Avatar
DINOSAURUS BOOSTUS

Expert Gearhead
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 41,391
Likes: 30
From: Enfield, CT
BillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of lightBillBoost37 is a glorious beacon of light
Default

I read this right the first time out, but thought I'd read the motors were very different. Is only the top end different? Motor wise that is, forgetting about the rest of the car and pcm.
Reply
Old May 16, 2005 | 11:14 AM
  #10  
willwren's Avatar
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 11
Likes: 13
willwren is on a distinguished road
Default

There are still some differences in the lower end, and some unanswered questions as well. Either way, it'* not a practical or cost-effective solution.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Phantom
1992-1999
24
Oct 22, 2009 08:11 PM
CDecker
Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning
50
Jun 8, 2004 05:46 PM
glanghus
Everything Electrical & Electronic
2
Jun 4, 2004 11:26 PM
Cat88Extreme
Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning
6
Feb 3, 2003 01:39 AM
Drifter420
Forum updates and suggestions
2
Sep 27, 2002 12:20 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:33 PM.