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Old 03-03-2006, 06:05 PM   #11
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If I pull my parts car into the garage this weekend, I'm pulling the dash, just so I don't mutilate mine when I remove it in the near future.

I'll take many pics
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Old 03-03-2006, 07:10 PM   #12
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When I first came on the site, I answered a question on removing the dash on a '97 SSEi; let'* see if I can find it!...........

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Well, because I didn't know any better, I probably did much more than I had to. If a fellow knew how to remove the passenger air bag, I think you could get right in to the air mix actuator.

Unfortunately for me, I did not know how to do this, and fussing around the airbag, even though I had disabled both of them, made me a little nervous. So, I removed the defroster and HUD cover to undo the top dash screws, removed the hush panels right and left and the glove box to remove the 10-mm head bolts holding the dash panel to the body right and left, dropped the steering column to a styrofoam block placed across the driver'* seat by removing the lower filler panel (4 bolts), and undid the two front bolts holding the steering column, then removed the 6 bolts securing the dash around the column. The last big bolts are behind the left side of the glove box. Then, the center console had to be disassembled to the point where the nuts and bolts holding it to the floor could be removed allowing the whole deal to be slid rearward enough to unbolt the bottom center of the dash panel from the floor mount and slide it back and up.

I removed the HUD, the CD player and the EEC head. Then I opened both front doors, pulled the dash back and pivoted it on a heavy cloth on the console so the passenger side came out and down several inches. This gave sufficient access to change the motor. There was plenty of wiring except for one two-wire connector on the back of the driver'* side of the dash to allow the dash to come back several inches with no pull on any wire. The instrument cluster was not removed. The dash is heavy and hard to move and must be handled carefully to prevent damage. The center console seat switches and the panel surrounding the shift lever had to be unfastened and raised and the trans shifted back to 2 to allow rear movement of the dash.

It took a lot of patience to undo everything without breaking, scratching, or damaging any delicate components or trim. I just took my time and quit for a while or for the day when I got frustrated. At that slow and careful pace, it took me about three days to take it apart and two to put it back together. But everything is nice and clean and tight, and I had an opportunity to realign some of the little anti-squeak pads the factory had glued on crooked in a couple of places on the dash trim pieces. ( The edge of one of these was visible above the EEC head and looked out of place.) So now everything works and the dash looks like new, well really, better than new.

If I had to do it again, I would work a little harder to find the procedure for removing the passenger air bag to see if that might work.. This way was not easy.

Hope this all helps the next guy who might have to do this job!
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that is awesome
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I didn't remove the radio, climate control or cluster. They do not impeed the removal but they do add weight and make it more difficult to remove alone.

I could not find a pic in my PB acct that shows the driver'* side but I do have several of the passenger'* side. Bill'* description of the fastener locations are great but I'd like to clarify the column area (maybe I'm reading it wrong). The column is supported by two larger bolts (15mm?) kinda under the cluster and two smaller bolts near the firewall. If the smaller bolts are not removed, the column can not be lowered all the way to the seat and can break the collar that they screw into. The 6 bolts securing the dash around the column include 4 that are on the sides (two per side) of the cavity (typically the flashers are attached to these brackets) and two more that bolt vertically directly above the column. You may not even see these two until the column is dropped.
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I didn't remove the radio, climate control or cluster. They do not impeed the removal but they do add weight and make it more difficult to remove alone.

I could not find a pic in my PB acct that shows the driver'* side but I do have several of the passenger'* side. Bill'* description of the fastener locations are great but I'd like to clarify the column area (maybe I'm reading it wrong). The column is supported by two larger bolts (15mm?) kinda under the cluster and two smaller bolts near the firewall. If the smaller bolts are not removed, the column can not be lowered all the way to the seat and can break the collar that they screw into. The 6 bolts securing the dash around the column include 4 that are on the sides (two per side) of the cavity (typically the flashers are attached to these brackets) and two more that bolt vertically directly above the column. You may not even see these two until the column is dropped.
Thanks, Randy, for the help. I have only done it once, and enough time has passed, that I could not have clarified the information, having forgotten 90% of what I did! And I apparently did not know that the initials for electronic climate control were ECC instead of EEC! Yipes!
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I didn't remove the radio, climate control or cluster. They do not impeed the removal but they do add weight and make it more difficult to remove alone.

I could not find a pic in my PB acct that shows the driver'* side but I do have several of the passenger'* side.
pics would be awesome
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BUMP.....

anyone have some pics for me??



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Search Frankenbonne...you'll find Randy'* pics from the donor car. Maybe that'll help.

Please...fix that quote two posts up
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i looked thru all the threads and couldnt come up with anything
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Oddly, I have no interior pics of the donor car. They may have been on a Memory Stick that was misplaced. Do you have any in your camera Bill?
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