Yea...that'* it..hehe...i knew what I was talking about...honest...but "someone" was diverting my attention...hahha....

+ok..If it were the starter of flywheel shouldn't it start right up after it passes that spot?... It just turns over and over and over sometimes with no signs of cranking..then about an hour later when i go out it fires right up!

Let me know what you guys/gals think


Hey thanks for the replies!

i still think the sensor....does it start cold and not hot? or sometimes hot and cold and sometimes not cold?

ok.when i first start it for the day..it cranks fine...If I go to the store or something..come back...and say 15-20 minutes later i need to make another run..it won't start/..It just turns over and over but not actually starting.

If I were to wait about an hour or so before attempting to restart it ..itwill usually start right up.

now..it only does this on occassion..sometimes i can go places back-to back with no problems.

Autozone say they can test the coil packs and tell me if one is bad or not????
and the sensor or module etc. cost well over 100 bux. that'* why i want to try and narrow it down!

up to this point these are teh things that i have been told to be the possible culprit:

coil pack
Crank postion sensor
ignition module
worn key which could cause bad starting..something to that effect
cam position sensor
starter
possible flywheel

other possibilities:
plugs/wires..installing them today
fuel filter
bad gas..no


Now here'* the deal..I have only had this car for like 2 1/2 months....drove fine never had a problem with it..and i have been driving it..believe me..then about 2 weeks ago this started to happen

well Thanks you guy'*/girl'* for trying to help me..I am guessing a diagnostic tool would be my best bet? or would it not help me much unless there is a engine light on???

Also where could i get a good one..that could possibly go to my other cars too??

1. dodge neon 95
2. toyota corolla...92
3. dodge ram pickup 84

thanks all

the fact that you cay it turns over n over but wont turn the rest of hte engine over...i really think its that sensor or the coil packs. and since i just had the same prob and mine was hte crank sensor i lean on that even more.

Hey how much did the crank sensor cost?

ok I c in the earlierpost it is for 40 bux?

Coil pack-no. Your car runs fine after it starts. You can check them yourself, anyway. Procedure in Techinfo.

Ignition module...possible considering the problem seems to be heat related.

Crank sensor, possible.

Worn key, no. The car wouldn't crank over at all.

Starter/flywheel...possible, unless the car is actually cranking over. If it'* cranking, but not starting, this isn't a possible problem.

Plugs/wires/ fuel filters are all good things to change, but generally won't prevent your car from starting. You really need to have some codes pulled.

hey UI appreciate the information..I had just pulled the coil packs and were about to take them in.. So most likely it is a sensor?

I may let autozone test My car for free!

Thanks

Go with the scan first. It could save you alot of time and headaches, not to mention the costs from shotgunning a problem like this. Even a good mechanic can steer you in the wrong direction, if he'* not familiar with the 'personality' of the Buick 3800.