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Old 08-09-2004, 11:33 PM   #11
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im glad everything worked out for you justin.....

keep that bonnie runnin...
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:20 AM   #12
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Ok... I'm late joining in here...

What is TC?
Kickdown cable?
What do you mean by coils?

Sorry for joining after the problem is fixed, but I feel my 91 is still kinda sluggish. Just want to go over everything to make sure she'* giving all the power she can.
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TC = torque converter
kickdown cable = the cable which tells the tranny of the trottle posistion

I don't see where coils were mentioned.. but if I said it, i meant the DIS coils, or maybe the ICM..


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Where is the kickdown cable? how do i adjust it? And i went by aamco today they wouldn't even do a diagnostic on my car! The guy said that 175,000 miles is about all the tranny lasts in a 88 bonnie so i'm really gonna have to get on the ball with those used trannys i found, plus i'll have the money to do it! also i can't chirp the tires on my bonnie anymore i could do it about a year ago but hey.

Alright, i'm out James
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I don't see where coils were mentioned.. but if I said it, i meant the DIS coils, or maybe the ICM..
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no idea. but I think my TC'* acting up too, at about 60-70km/h (about 40mph), it'* sometimes stubborn to go into OD, and the car will shudder. Downshifts are getting a bit rougher too (I specifically noticed a rather hairy 3-2 downshift), I think. Are you getting any of this?
This is going to sound crazy, but you might want to check your coil packs. My car was doing the exact same thing, and replacing the coils fixed it right up. It would miss on hard acceleration, and shudder pretty violently on switching to overdrive. Downshifts would JERK hard enough to make me worry I was going to break something.

Edit: My 1990 LE will bark the tires pretty easy. Just put your foot down .

it better be my coil packs. :(
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ok guys.. learn from my mistake..

adjusting the kickdown cable.. is not as easy as putting extra tention on the cable..

Here'* what I did. I had some spare aluminum scraps.. so I made them about a square half inch. Drilled a hole in the center, and used tin snips to cut to the hole so it would slide onto the cable. Well I went to go clean up my engine, and low and behold, the aluminum was gone! so I thought at first, maybe it just fell off.. so I took some small vise grips and put a small amount of extra tention on the wire [maybe 3/8"] and the vise grip went flying when I pushed on the throttle hard. So I talked to smoosh, and he mentioned you have to take the throttle body off to adjust a nut which is the actual method of adjusting the kickdown cable. So guys.. learn from my mistakes.. Hopefully in a day or two I can run to the Napa 5 min. from me and pick up some Carb/ TB cleaner and a new TB gasket. I'll post up some pics when I get to doing it.. just so nobody makes the same mistake as me.


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your kick down should have an auto Adjust function on it

this is directly for the Haynes Manual

- engine must not be running during this adjustment

- depress the re-adjust tab and push the slider through the fitting (away from the throttle lever) as far as it will go

- release the re-adjust tab

-manually turn the throttle lever to the "wide open throttle" position until the the re-adjust tab makes an audiable click. then release the throttle lever. the cable is now adjusted

NOTE: don't use excessive force at the throttle lever to adjust the TV (kickdown) cable. if great effort is required to adjust the cable , disconnect the cable at the transaxle end and check for free operation. if it'* still difficult, replace the cable. if it'* now free suspect a bent TV link on the transaxle or a problem with the throttle lever.


This adjust is for 85-91 (basically if you have the cable.. this is how you adjust it)
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ok guys.. can't seem to get this stupid thing adjusted.. I've got the MAF sensor body thingy off, and I have the throttle body still on my list to remove.. I've found only two nuts to removed.. but I think there is stuff I have to disconnect before it'll come off.. here are some pics of where i'm at right now.









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you're going about this all wrong man. To adjust the TV cable (kickdown cable as you're referring it) there is this little black "box" looking thing. You have to press HARD on the top of it, there'* a little button under the rubber top of it. Then you adjust it from there. By the way you're doing it, you're going to break something! The little black box is on the end of the metal bracket where the TV cable connects to the bracket. THis is on the end opposite from the throttle body.
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UPDATE: ok guys, took a look at my service manual.. I do have all the bolts off, and there is something hanging it up.. I just took at look at the engine.. and tried to pull the TB off, and the whole engine, and car shook when doing that, so its still firmly attatched.. There are two hoses that are connected, and neither will come off, there is one flexable rubber one, and one hard one [I think may be the thing holding it on], plus I still have the fuel lines connected, and I am going to purge the system as soon as the rain clouds pass, and remove those, and that may help.. Anyone have any suggestions? The bolt which houses the kickdown cable adjustment thing.. is non turnable, because its connected to the butterfly, which means I can't turn it.. so I know I will have to take the TB off.. no avoiding it.


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