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Old 12-11-2009, 12:05 PM   #1
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I have a 91 Bonne SSE with gray upolstery ,I thought all SSE cars from 88-91 had leather or cloth material to cover seats. My nephew said our car has naugahyde materisl with little holes in the material. Is this to make the seats cooler.Could I get any pictures on this subject. Or answer my questions.Is the seats in a sse of 89 the same as a 91 bonne.
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The holes are for cooling. How he know it'* not real leather. Just asking not being a critic. Not all areas are always leather. I have sat on nicer softer vinyl seats though. Modern vinyl that is .
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Hi purplexj Our nephew is does custom upollestery for a living besides farming. Does anybody have a picture of a 91 Bonne with gray leather seats .
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On the Bonneville seats, the seating surfaces (the parts that touch you) are leather. All the other panels (sides, back, etc.) are vinyl, or Naugahyde as you call it. Naugahyde is actually a brand name. Leather can either be mini-perfed, or micro-perfed. Mini-perf creates small holes you can see, and is for appearance. Makes you think they are cooler since air passes through, but in fact the underlying layers of film and foam prevent this, so it is just for appearance.

Micro-perf creates holes you need a magnifying glass to see, and are a feature required by the manufacturing process. The seat builder uses the small holes to pass negative air pressure (vacuum) through the leather to properly wet out the adhesive on the underlying foam, and to draw the leather into the form mold to give it the desired shape.

Both type of perfs are formed by passing the leather over rollers with thousands of small needles in them.

To answer your question, just because it has holes does not mean it is not leather.

As a side note, look for production literature on various cars and see how they advertise leather seats. Some will say "leather seating surfaces", only a very few upscale cars will actually say "leather seats". Truth in advertising.
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I know they usually say all leather seating areas. Leading you to believe , All Leather. I personally have never seen a 91 down Bonne with gray leather. I'm sure someone on here knows.
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My 91 Bonneville SSE has an all grey interior, with the grey leather seats? I thought that was relatively common, if you want a pic let me know!
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I'd like to see a pic , pics. Post up on here. Like I said I've never seen a gray leather SSE. Only seen the saddle color. Post up a pic of the exterior too.
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Post some pics for me too. thanks for the replys Its been bitterly cold here so havent taken any pics of our ride yet.and of cource it warmed up yesterday and snowed so roads were slushey yesterday when we went for early christmas so car is white instead of black. duncan
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It snows in Canada ? I was up there yesterday , It was warm and sunny !
Post the snow pics anyway.
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It went from -35F to + 33F yesterday but today the temp dropped back down to oF Yes we have some snow about 8" .
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