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Old 08-09-2007, 06:49 PM   #11
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All that information is much appreciated. HOPEFULLY it will end up being just a worn key, and I can be on my merry way. If not, well, im looking at one crappy day of tearin the steering apart.

Couple quick questions. Im not exactly a mechanic, but I have pulled a motor, replaced starter, alternator, etc. on my 86 cutlass. Is this going to be something that I can screw up worse by trying to fix?

My other question, is it easy to jump the starter solenoid?? I havent looked under the hood in a while so I'm not sure exactly what I am lookin for. From what I remember on my cutlass, when I hook up the starter there are 2 nuts to put on. I for the battery, and the other 2 with fusible links connect to the solenoid, correct? So to "jump" the starter I just need to bridge these 2 together with a screwdriver or something, right?
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Right. But try the key first.
Before I got my new key, I sometimes had trouble turning the old key. Sometimes I had to turn the steering wheel a little bit one way or another to make it work. Even if the wheel is locked, there is a little bit of play in it so you can jiggle it one way or another. This may help you start it with the old key.
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The last month or so, I have had problems going from LOCK to OFF with that key. I had to finagle it just right to get it to go. Then the past couple of weeks, I had to change the way I positioned my hand to get it from ON to START. I had to pull back a little sometimes after I started because it would stick in START and the starter would whine, but that only happened a couple of times.

Like you said, I'll try to make the old key work. If not, hopefully I can figure out how to jump it, and get a new key made tommorow.
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I got it to start! Jumped the starter solenoid to the battery post and she took right off. Whew, that a load off of my mind. At least its in front of my apartment, not my job .

I'll see tommorow morning whether it is the key or the ignition assembly.

Wish me luck
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See? that old key isn't that bad.
You know how the chime goes "bong bong bong" when you leave your key in? With my old key it wouldn't do that. When I got the car, I just assumed that it was disconnect by a previous owner. Also, with the old key, I could start the engine, take the key out, and as long as I didn't turn it all the way back to "Lock" I could start the engine again, or turn it off as many times as I wanted all without using the ignition key. For about the first year that I had this car, I never used the ignition key unless I forgot and turned it all the way back to "Lock"
Then I started having problems with it not wanting to start without the key. But when I used the key, it wasn't much better. That was when I got the new key made at the dealership. The first time I stuck it in, it went "bong bong bong" just like it was supposed to. It kind of startled me because I had never heard it do that before. I hope you are as surprised at how much difference a new key makes. And I hope that using the old key for so long didn't hurt your lock mechanism.
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Yes, I've got the "bong, bong, bong" still with this key. But it was like you said, if I didnt put the ignition into the lock position, I didnt need the key. I'll be hopefully finding out what the problem is here in a couple hours.
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Damn Damn Damn
My new 28.00 key didnt work!
Well, looks like I'm lookin into a great, hot, afternoon of pulling my steering column apart.
I really hope I dont screw anything up :(
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That sucks. I was betting on the key working too.

You have a manual or something, right? I'm sure it looks like a crappy and intimidating job, but you just have to take it one step at a time. At least you have no airbags or anything to deal with on these things.
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Yeah, its 103 degrees outside, and the local GM dealership said that they would do it for 180, parts and labor. I told them I already had the part, so they knocked it down to 130. This is somthing that I wanted to do myself, but it is so damn hot outside and I dont have the patience for it today. Plus, I need my car done by tommorow, so I can make up for the work that I missed these past few days .

Thanks for the help and the info guys!

Im sure you will see most postin around soon
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That sounds reasonable for a stealership.

Did you call any other, non-dealership shops around town? Usually they do things for less...

Yeah, do stick around. It'* good to have another '87-91 guy around here. We're a dying breed, sadly...
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