Moon roof won't park (Got fix).
 

Anyone have this problem when your power moonroof goes from pop up to full
open without stopping in the park position?

all i can tell you is that my 95 has to stop in between the two ways. have to hold the button twice to get it from pop up to full open

Sounds like a bad limit switch. I don't have my factory service manuals handy to check on that right now.

Is not a bug, its a feature just like you have to push the RKE button twice to unlock the passenger door.

Pull the switch once and the moonroof goes to pop-up ventilation (where I usaually leave it). Second time for full open.

Not sure what you mean by "goes from pop up to full open without stopping in the park position". The three positions are park (closed), pop-up, and full open in that order. It closes all the way with one press.

pop up
 

What I meant was if you pop it up then go to close it I used to just hold the switch
and it would stop when it closed. Now it keeps going to the full open position.
I have to jog the motor switch to stop it in the closed position.

mine does the same thing, i have to get out of the car to see if the moonroof is closed fully. Lots of water gets in too if its not closed properly

Got answer to fix roof.
 

I got the answer to my moon roof problem.
The motor simply needs to be re - timed.
The gear sometimes jumps the track of the flexible cables.
Alls I did was remove the interior bead around the glass.
Reach up above the headliner and loosen three philips screws with offset screwdriver
until the motor gear drops enough to disengage the cable.
Then you release the timing latch wire and swing it 90 deg.
Turn the small plastic wheel until the notch on the bigger wheel lines up with the switch while the roof is in the closed position.
Presto it now works correctly.

OMG...... really... it can be that simple!!

That's been bugging me on my 91 since last August.... the dealer said it would probably need a new motor (or something)... repair cost... labor + parts was est at $1200.

Man.... if I try this and it works I'm going to kiss you...... or at least buy you a few beers ;)

Dealer
 

Yah the dealer tried to rip me off too. He said the whole headliner had to come out and
there were multiple limit switches and a substantial labor charge.
Thats why I do all my own work!
Even oil changes.....I don't want people I can't trust monkeying with my car.....

HELP :!:

Ok, I printed off your instructions and tried to fix my moonroof today.

First, I removed the rubber trim, but then I figured out I wasn't supposed to. Oh well, no big harm.

Second, I found 3 screws on the front of the moonroof glass, but they just held on a metal "ring". I detached it anyways.

Third, I couldn't find 3 screws above the headliner, but I found 6.
3 on each side of the moonroof that lifts it to "pop" it open. I removed all 6 and removed the moonroof.

I can't figure out how to drop the motor gear or disengage the cable.
I can't find the timing latch wire.
and I can't find a small plastic wheel or larger wheel.

There seems to be 2 cables (one on each side) of the moonroof. But I can't figure out how-to have it "park" when it's closed.

Little help?

moon roof
 

Sorry you had problems.
sounds like your working on the wrong section.
1) sit in the drivers seat.
2) unsnap both sun visors and swing out of way.
3)unscrew overhead lamp and roof switch assembly.
4)look up at the headliner opening around moon roof.
5)remove rubber finish bead.
6)unpack liner material so you could reach up under it between visors. Slightly pull
liner down between visors. (not much).
7)use offset screwdriver to loosen two front motor screws then the one to the left.
(total 3).
8)drop motor enough to disengage gear.
9)unclip and swing timing wire 90 deg.
10)turn small plastic wheel until notch in big wheel lines up with switch while roof is
in closed position.
11)assembly is reverse of dissassembly.

Ok... woah... I was totally in the wrong area.

I've got to put it back together and try the new instructions tomorrow.

Thanks for help :)

Ok... update...

I followed your new instructions, but I was unable to get access to the two screws to disengage the motor. It appears you have to remove the headliner from the sunroof, but I didn't know how, and I didn't want to ruin/rip my headliner.

Also, I accidently gave the motor power while the clip was disengaged...
Now the green disc is "dropped" down, and spins freely.
Also you have to "double tap" the motor inorder to move the moonroof.
1st press it just goes "click".......... 2nd press it moves, but still doesn't pause.

HELP!!!

headliner
 

I just removed the vinyl finish bead around the inside of the moonroof then pulled
the packed headliner material out of the slot and reached above the headliner to do the work.
You need a small offset philips screwdriver to get at the screws.
Sounds like you need to disengage the timing wire again and gently push the small wheel up while turning it.
Never engage the motor while this timing wire in disengaged.

Re: headliner
 

Yea I figured that's what I needed to do.... but I can't figure out how-to remove the headliner.

I've got an offset screwdriver.... I'm just wondering how much damage I did.

Yea.... I learned that the hard way.

I have heard of a clutch somewhere that can be tightened. Mine will spin without moving unless I use a finger to help. This seems to be on initial opening only, it will generally close without assistance.

Before I do anything else up there... I want to learn how-to safely take down the headliner...

I just can't figure it out, and I'm scared to do anything with it.

headliner
 

Don't remove you whole headline unless you plan on replacing it.
You just want to hang down the portion between the visors after you remove the overhead light console and switch assy.
3 screws two are located under light lenses.
Just pull the front part of the vinyl bead out between visor part of moon roof
headliner.
then the headliner will sag down so you could reach above it.

Re: headliner
 

Ok I did that... I managed to get at the motor thru the hole from the overhead lights.

I removed the vinyl bead, and the headliner doesn't sag at all... its in there really tight.
I'll try and snap some shots to show you.

http://rubix.ca/Bonnie/bc_stuff/temp/img_7113.jpg

Ok... I can remove the overhead unit that hold the lights really easily.
You can see the plastic grey bead from around the sunroof is gone....

But I don't know how to unclip/remove the headliner from the edge of the sunroof.

moon roof
 

your almost there. Now get a small piece of bent wire or screwdriver and carefully
pull the moon roof material out of the slot where the vinyl bead came out towards the visor side of moon roof only.
Then with the overhead light removed the windshield side of the head liner just has velcro material holding it. Gently pry it down and the headliner should sag in the middle allowing you to get at the moonroof motor.

I tried pulling it out before, but it felt like it was going to rip the fabric.
I'll take another look and try it again.

Is it even worth me trying, I think I broke something up there since the green wheel is "floating" around now.

moon roof
 

I your headliner fabric has any kind of age on it is is probably best to leave it alone as it will rip and fall apart.
My SSE fabric was only 2 years old and I new just what to do from when I put it in.