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Old 09-24-2003, 01:14 PM   #1
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Hello everyone,
I guess I posted my original question in the wrong section.
I just purchased a winter beater and already have a starting problem with it
on the second day after I brought it home.
This is what happened.
After not starting the car ( a 1989 delta) for two days, I attempted to start
it one morning and all it did was kept on cranking but would not catch to start.
I cranked it for about 12 seconds then brought the key back to the off position.
Then I waited 5 seconds and tried to start it again. It was cranking for about
7 seconds and still wouldn't start so I put the accelerator to the floor while cranking
it and it started after 5 seconds.
Eight hours later it started fine.
Do you think it could be the fuel pressure regulator like on another post, I already
checked the wires and theys seem okay .
Could anyone help?
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checked your fule pressure on it yet? Might be the fuel pump.
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Hmm... could your engine be flooded? I don't know if it happens to 3800'*, but my family'* '85 Toyota Cressida has leaky injectors, so when the car is shut off, the next time the car'* started, since the leak is minor, the car starts, but idles rough for a little bit and wants to stall. Your car might be really flooded so that it doesn't even start


... or it could be the fuel pressure regulator... I wouldn't know
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Hmm-that reminds me.....this past winter my car refused to start--no matter how much I cranked it! I even used starter fluid--no go! I finally pulled the plugs and they were saturated w/fuel! Never happened before or since then.
Ever checked your plugs for that?
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Hmm-that reminds me.....this past winter my car refused to start--no matter how much I cranked it! I even used starter fluid--no go! I finally pulled the plugs and they were saturated w/fuel! Never happened before or since then.
Ever checked your plugs for that?
the exact same thing happened to me before once in the winter. Has never happened since. so i dried the plugs and it cranked up fine.
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Might want to take a look at your IAC valve, sounds like thats it (cold starting troubles).
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Tonyrodz had the right idea with the starter fluid. Its, in my opinion, one of the best ways to diagnose a starting problem. Open the TB and spray some in, 2-3seconds. Wait about 5seconds then spray some on the back of the butterfly valve. Have a buddy try starting the car while you do 1-2second pulses into the TB. If it starts up continue pulsing the starting fluid into the TB and if you can keep it running for more than 10-15seconds you have a fuel delivery problem. If it doesn't help any or it still doesn't want to start properly the problem is probably your ignition (coils, wires, plugs...) or related sensors (cam/crank).
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check the cam sensor. the exact same thing happened to me. it started fine for a while but then it doesnt seem to catch when you crank it. i let it run then restart it and its fine. the sensor was about $35 bucks. check the crank sensor too.
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