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Old 05-02-2005, 10:10 AM   #1
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Remove the rear shoulder seatbelt retractor anchor bolts (Torx T50), without doing the following....

A)Scratching the tint on the back window
B)Breaking the back window
C)Breaking your hand...... OW!!!!! <-I failed this one already....

I've got a T50 L shaped 'thingy'..... but I can't get enough leverage to get that bolt out.
... anytime I put my weight into it, it threatens to slip out and hit the window... arrgg

I've managed to bust up my left hand pretty well..... but at least it didn't hit the window.
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I'm trying to think of some good advice that won't involve any major damage. lol. Well my car doesn't have rear shoulder belts so i can't offer any real experience but i've got a little trick that might help. I've done this a few times to get stubborn bolts out. Get yourself an impact chisel, with a VERY sharp tip on it. Use this to make a good sized notch in the side of the bolt, then put the tip in the notch and carefully try to coax it to turn to the left. It'* sort of like getting the torque of an impact wrench but only using half the bolt. You may or may not be comfortable (or able) to use this method, like i said i'm lucky enough not to have shoulder belts so i'm not sure the hell you're going through. I know those seatbelt bolts are really tight though, sometimes with threadlock from the factory to keep them from coming off.
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Are you totally sure thay they are a T50? I have found a few that were odd ball sizes...

Like the bolts for the front seat guide were T47... Freaky... And be careful with that hand and Bonnie... I have Torx sockets BTW for the Ratchet.... Leverage...

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Ok.. problem solved....

I took out the 3 bolts on each side that the seat belt retractor was attached to.... this allowed me to take the seatbelt outside the car (not far) but enough to try to get some leverage...... no good... even on the ground, full body weight... didn't budge.

So off to the mechanics..... he takes one look at it... "impact gun"... w00t!
Like a hot knife thru butter... it was done. Re-aligned the seatbelt retractor to it'* proper position, impact gun again, and we're in business.

It'll be nice to have the rear seatbelts working properly.... first time in many years.
Not sure who put them back in wrong, could have been when they were working on my stereo, or when the tint was done (or redone).... who knows.... but whoever did it was a real moron, and didn't take 2 seconds to make sure it was done right.

Anyways... problem solved....
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Gotta love Air tools.... LMAO.... My friend has worn out soo many impacy guns and air ratchets....

In the near future I'll get a shed, when I do I'll have to get a Compressor and tools...

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Gotta love Air tools.... LMAO.... My friend has worn out soo many impacy guns and air ratchets....

In the near future I'll get a shed, when I do I'll have to get a Compressor and tools...
You won't regret it. Apparently my dad bought a new compressor with tax return money, I haven't been in the garage since though

It'll be lightyears better than the one he fabricated up himself, that'* for sure.
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Glad to hear you got that taken care of.
I just picked up an air compressor a couple weeks ago and am going to get a Snap On Impact gun this week -possibly two since the 3/8 drive Snap-On is only $40 and the 1/2" drive Snap-On $79.
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Wow, my brother actually WON a 3/8" Snap-On impact wrench at a high school autoshop competition (I did it for the past 3 years) like... 2-3 years ago. I didn't know they could run that cheap
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Wow, my brother actually WON a 3/8" Snap-On impact wrench at a high school autoshop competition (I did it for the past 3 years) like... 2-3 years ago. I didn't know they could run that cheap
They are at a local pawn shop. Talked to the Snap-On guy and he said they could rebuild the 3/8 drive impact gun for $105 -to buy a new one would be around $225.
The rebuild on the 1/2 drive impact gun would be around $125 and a new one would be $300'ish.
So yeah, I'm thinking "just buy 'em both in a package deal for $100 and have them rebuilt when they need to be".
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Most of my tools are Craftsman. Since this is a hobby and not a profession it works for me. Been collecting for a long time so also have a smattering of Thorenson, Herrbrand, Penncraft (yes, Virginia, once Penney'* competed directly with Sears and had a complete line of hand tools - getting a "lifetime warrenty" honored is interesting though).

Also some sets of GearWrench, Vice-Grip, etc. Some oddball stuff from Harbor Freight (two stores in Orlando). Airtools mainly Chicago Pneumatic or Sears. One "Durabilt" set inna case I take to yards.

SAE, metric, and a smattering of Whitworth (old Jaguars)

Used to have a friend with a Snap-On truck though even with a discount could not justify the expense. Not sure if MAC is any better. They make it easy for a mechanic to develop a very expensive habit.

Never have understood the idea behind a five foot mechanic with a six foot toolbox, if I can't see in the top, what good is it ?

Hardest thing in the world to find is the right philips screwdriver.
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