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Xeviathan 08-04-2009 11:52 AM

87 Bonneville wont start
 
My 87 Bonneville just stopped running on me while I was driving on level ground. The engine cranks but wont start.
So far here is what i'v checked:

- Im getting a spark in the plugs
- there is fuel pressure in the fuel rail and I changed the fuel filter.
- there are no diagnostic codes reading other than code 12 (normal).
- all fuses are good
- can feel air coming out of the tail pipe while cranking

I can smell fuel after I crank the motor, but I know I didn't flood it.The air filter box got blown off while I was trying to start it due to air/fuel. What else could be stopping the car from starting? Cam sensor possibly?

Anykind of help would be great !

Danthurs 08-04-2009 12:17 PM

Does your car have a VATs? They generally don't shut down when driving. Do you have a security light, is it flashing or on steady? A crank sensor could cause it to shut down it it suddenly failed.

87BonnevilleTX 08-19-2009 07:56 PM

I had a similar problem a few years ago. In my case, it turned out that the timing gear broke (I think that's what it was anyways). After I got it repaired, the mechanic showed me the old one, and the gear was missing several teeth.

Before I got it fixed, the starter worked just fine, and it sounded like it was just about to turn over, but it never did. Hope this helps.

Xeviathan 08-19-2009 08:26 PM

Trying to determin if its a timing problem or the fuel pump. When I turn the key to "accessory mode" I can hear the fuel pump buzz for three seconds or so. If it was shot would it still do that?
Is there a way to verify the timing gear is broke.. maybe open the oil cap and look to see if the lifters are moving?

Thank you for your help !

Danthurs 08-19-2009 08:33 PM

If your having a VATs problem, the fuel pump will prime, then shut off. As I asked before, do you have a VATs on the car? Is there a chip on your key?

Xeviathan 08-19-2009 08:40 PM

Vehicle Anti-Theft System? Negative. And there is no chip on the key.

Danthurs 08-19-2009 08:43 PM

OK, first thing is to check for spark, pull a plug and lay it on a ground with the plug wire on and crank. Is there a spark? If yes, then test your fuel pressure. If no then check over the coils.

Xeviathan 08-19-2009 08:46 PM

I have a spark, so I'll have to get the pressure of the fuel tested. Thanks for the replies.

Danthurs 08-19-2009 08:54 PM

After you get it tested you will need to check the filter, pump, or relay depending on what you find out.

Xeviathan 08-19-2009 09:01 PM

I recently changed the fuel filter right after it quit running, so its good to go. So its either timing, a relay or the fuel sending unit.


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