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Old 05-02-2007, 09:24 PM
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For those interested in the best n/a L36 rocker ratio, check out this thread. Wizbang is the one who did all the testing and development for the now ZZP rockers.
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I was going to post this and i saw you did, thanx mike
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Originally Posted by TJ'sblackbonne
I was going to post this and i saw you did, thanx mike
I wondered and now I am going for a Freak of nature if you will on other thread...
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Awesome post, thanks. I especially like these tidbits:

Replace the stock valve springs ONLY on the Intake Valves. Leave the stock springs on the Exhaust Valves. The Exhaust Valves with stock springs and ER Rockers have been tested to near 7,000 RPM and do not float. Installing heavier springs is only adding to parasitic HP loss and additional valvetrain stress and wear.

High mileage (stock or otherwise) valve springs are not bad by any rationale or by virtue of their age or length of service. In fact, they actually have a higher reliability due to their age and use. This is because springs undergo a type of stress relieving called aging and elevating temperatures increases the rate at which the steel ages. As the springs undergo this stress relieving, they will loose some spring rate or tension. The rate at which they loose their tension decreases asymptotically with time. This means they undergo much of their stress relieving early in their service life and much less later on. If a valve spring is manufactured properly, they will not undergo fatigue failure. I would have higher confidence in springs that have been in service for 100K miles than new springs. The older springs have proven not have any defects in the metal that will lead to a premature failure. These older springs have withstood the test of time. Regardless of the decrease in spring rate, the springs will far out-last the engine in all respects.
Since I was considering the possibility of leaving the stock springs on the exhaust with my SR rockers, and swapping in stronger on the 1.85 intakes only...now I know that'* recommended

In fact, I plan to test whether the 1.8'* are even needed on the exhaust, or the stock 1.6 is adequate.
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For those looking at ZZP ER Rockers, be sure to look at this:

http://www.easyperformance.com/Tech_...t_Content.html

It gives real data and dyno test results.
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Originally Posted by mike1053
Originally Posted by TJ'sblackbonne
I was going to post this and i saw you did, thanx mike
I wondered and now I am going for a Freak of nature if you will on other thread...
Not sure what you're talking about, Mike, but these rockers won't work for your car. You have a different engine.
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Originally Posted by 95naSTA
For those interested in the best n/a L36 rocker ratio, check out this thread. Wizbang is the one who did all the testing and development for the now ZZP rockers.
In thinking about wizbang'* post a bit more...

Do you have any info on how he tested that stock springs can handle 1.8+ ratios and up to 7k rpm'*? This is definitely the first time I've ever heard anyone assert that this was a safe practice...
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Other than that easy performance article and that new thread, I don't really have any other info.
I know he has dynoed his car probably more than any other gpgt owner though..
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That is an excellent thread.... thank you very much for posting. I'll have to make sure Doug sees this one as well...
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