any '92-'99 H-bodies with a 60*V6 swapped in?
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Originally Posted by TurboSedan
what facts are you talking about?
Iron heads may not be better for cooling, but in a boosted application, they will be less prone to warp or lift.
Have you ever read of a machined 3800 flywheel failing?
You regal engine bay is much different than the H-body. There is no need to torque the engine forward as the rear bank is easily accessible.
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Originally Posted by 95naSTA
Originally Posted by TurboSedan
what facts are you talking about?
Iron heads may not be better for cooling, but in a boosted application, they will be less prone to warp or lift.
Originally Posted by 95naSTA
Have you ever read of a machined 3800 flywheel failing?
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You regal engine bay is much different than the H-body. There is no need to torque the engine forward as the rear bank is easily accessible.
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can I suggest that you're coming across as being a little uninformed and cocky to boot?
the people who have posted are trying to help you, not hurt you. 95naSTA and willwren are two of the most respected members here, and have tried more with their vehicles than just about anyone else. they know the ins and outs of these cars and trying to get performance out of them.
You'd be wise to listen and take what they say in to account, rather than get defensive.
I'll save my rant on the 60 degree vs. 90 degree, but a little time researching the warranty issues of both would net most of the reasons most here prefer the 90 degree family.
the people who have posted are trying to help you, not hurt you. 95naSTA and willwren are two of the most respected members here, and have tried more with their vehicles than just about anyone else. they know the ins and outs of these cars and trying to get performance out of them.
You'd be wise to listen and take what they say in to account, rather than get defensive.
I'll save my rant on the 60 degree vs. 90 degree, but a little time researching the warranty issues of both would net most of the reasons most here prefer the 90 degree family.
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Originally Posted by TurboSedan
i'm not sure what you're saying here. i don't need to torque the engine forward to do ANY work to the rear bank on my Cutlass or Regal. i even helped a friend install 1.9 rockers in his GTP without pulling the engine forward, same with plugs.
All I'm really trying to say is there is much more room to the firewall compared to the W-body and more room pretty much anywhere else.
If you want to see a pic of the the L36/L67 t/a mount, check out the rebuilding an L36 sticky.
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Originally Posted by TurboSedan
Originally Posted by 95naSTA
The 3800 is by far much easier to work on. I have a LH0 and the rear bank is a nightmare, I have also torn apart 3100/3400s.
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You regal engine bay is much different than the H-body. There is no need to torque the engine forward as the rear bank is easily accessible.
It'* nothing like an hour of fighting the SII L67 in your GS as you mentioned.
Cheers,
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can I suggest that you're coming across as being a little uninformed and cocky to boot?
the people who have posted are trying to help you, not hurt you. 95naSTA and willwren are two of the most respected members here, and have tried more with their vehicles than just about anyone else. they know the ins and outs of these cars and trying to get performance out of them.
You'd be wise to listen and take what they say in to account, rather than get defensive.
I'll save my rant on the 60 degree vs. 90 degree, but a little time researching the warranty issues of both would net most of the reasons most here prefer the 90 degree family.
the people who have posted are trying to help you, not hurt you. 95naSTA and willwren are two of the most respected members here, and have tried more with their vehicles than just about anyone else. they know the ins and outs of these cars and trying to get performance out of them.
You'd be wise to listen and take what they say in to account, rather than get defensive.
I'll save my rant on the 60 degree vs. 90 degree, but a little time researching the warranty issues of both would net most of the reasons most here prefer the 90 degree family.
anyway, i think i know what i'm going to have to do. i'm going to have to just try it and be on my own. this same type of thread would happen over at 60degree v6.com if i were to suggest that i wanted to install an L67 into a '93 Cavalier Z24. everyone would be against it. which is really childish considering both engines are great like i mentioned above.
i just happen to own both engines and love them both. the problem is, i want a '92-'95 SSE/SSEi but no 60*V6 ever came in them. so some fabrication is obviously going to have to happen. no one here seems to want to help much except 95naSTA (thank you) and a suggestion from GAMEOVER (again thank you) but others are clammering on about staying with the 3800. which isn't what this topic is about. i want to know what it takes to install a 60*V6 in a '92-'95 H-body. big deal. if you don't know or have any ideas to share than please ignore this topic. remember this forum'* description:
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Originally Posted by 95naSTA
I have to rock my engine forward on my 90 Regal with the LH0 to do the plugs. There is about an inch to the firewall. And although its not 100% necessary, it makes it easier to get the the rear bank on my buddies 98 regal gs.
All I'm really trying to say is there is much more room to the firewall compared to the W-body and more room pretty much anywhere else.
If you want to see a pic of the the L36/L67 t/a mount, check out the rebuilding an L36 sticky.
All I'm really trying to say is there is much more room to the firewall compared to the W-body and more room pretty much anywhere else.
If you want to see a pic of the the L36/L67 t/a mount, check out the rebuilding an L36 sticky.
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Originally Posted by TurboSedan
Originally Posted by 95naSTA
The 3800 is by far much easier to work on. I have a LH0 and the rear bank is a nightmare, I have also torn apart 3100/3400s.
Originally Posted by TurboSedan
Originally Posted by 95naSTA
You regal engine bay is much different than the H-body. There is no need to torque the engine forward as the rear bank is easily accessible.
It'* nothing like an hour of fighting the SII L67 in your GS as you mentioned.
Cheers,
i suppose if i ended up with an already supercharged '92-'95 Bonneville i would just stick with the Series I 'L67' and either work with the M62 or dive in and turbocharge it if 350whp wasn't possible with the M62. but if i were to end up with an 'L27' SSE, i think that engine would have to go...and that'* where the idea for the 3400 came in really. i'm currently trying to buy my brother'* '94 Bonneville SSE back from him (actually a cash/trade deal for my Regal GS) but we'll see how that works out. i'd rather have the Bonneville and no car loan than the Regal with its car loan. then i could keep my Turbo Cutlass to boot (i don't have room for 3 cars or else i'd keep the GS).
i do apologize if i am coming off as defensive, but i really just want some on-topic answers; not just "stick with the 3800".
thanks
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FWIW I think this is going over much better than if the opposite was proposed over at 60*v6. They usually lock those threads.
I think the main objection to this project is the practibility. There are a lot of issues you will have to tackle that wouldn't be there if you set out to get the same power with a L67.
But, hey, you know that, and your set on the boosted 3400, so give it a shot. Just realize your dealing with a 3800 forum and not too many people are going to see your point of view.
I think the main objection to this project is the practibility. There are a lot of issues you will have to tackle that wouldn't be there if you set out to get the same power with a L67.
But, hey, you know that, and your set on the boosted 3400, so give it a shot. Just realize your dealing with a 3800 forum and not too many people are going to see your point of view.
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Originally Posted by TurboSedan
so um, were you going to add anything worthwhile to the topic at hand?
anyway, i think i know what i'm going to have to do. i'm going to have to just try it and be on my own. this same type of thread would happen over at 60degree v6.com if i were to suggest that i wanted to install an L67 into a '93 Cavalier Z24. everyone would be against it. which is really childish considering both engines are great like i mentioned above.
i just happen to own both engines and love them both. the problem is, i want a '92-'95 SSE/SSEi but no 60*V6 ever came in them. so some fabrication is obviously going to have to happen. no one here seems to want to help much except 95naSTA (thank you) and a suggestion from GAMEOVER (again thank you) but others are clammering on about staying with the 3800. which isn't what this topic is about. i want to know what it takes to install a 60*V6 in a '92-'95 H-body. big deal. if you don't know or have any ideas to share than please ignore this topic. remember this forum'* description:
i just happen to own both engines and love them both. the problem is, i want a '92-'95 SSE/SSEi but no 60*V6 ever came in them. so some fabrication is obviously going to have to happen. no one here seems to want to help much except 95naSTA (thank you) and a suggestion from GAMEOVER (again thank you) but others are clammering on about staying with the 3800. which isn't what this topic is about. i want to know what it takes to install a 60*V6 in a '92-'95 H-body. big deal. if you don't know or have any ideas to share than please ignore this topic. remember this forum'* description:
In any event, if it floats your boat, good luck, and let us know how it turns out -