NSX engine vs 3800 II
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Re: NSX engine vs 3800 II
Originally Posted by ratmfan2118
Well then compare apples to apples, comparing a Mclaren to an NSX is Rediculous.
Originally Posted by ratmfan2118
The McLaren is over a million to buy while the NSX is 80,00 and I believe the McLAren is a v-10 or V-12 while the NSX is a V-6. If you wanted to truly compare you the NSX you would to a Supra, Skyline or RX-7.
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Besides as a racing car NSX'* are not that great as the are mid engined and rear wheel drive so oversteer is always a problem.
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So here'* what I found out just for *****-n-giggles. I already have all the info on a series I supercharged engine so I'll use that for the baseline. Sorry its not n/a but the idea is there. Starting at an acceptable error rate of 5% the hp is stock at 220hp at 4500rpm with 8.5:1 compression and 10psi of boost. Bumping that up to 9.5:1 you net 235hp @ 5000rpm. Going balls up to 10.4:1 you end up with 246hp @ 5000rpm. Pulling from the lotus esprit and using 4valve/cyl heads with each valve retaining the stock size (nearly impossible but lets keep it simple) you'll pull in 424hp if you could reach the 7500rpm its created at otherwise it'll be 341hp at 5000rpm. Cool thing is using the same size valves on the 4valve/cyl heads used on the lotus will net you 328@ 5000rpm. So we have:
Bore: 3.800
Stroke: 3.400
Compression ratio: 10.4:1
Power: 366hp @ 6500rpm
Head chamber: Unk. metal 4valve per cyl
Valvegear: hydrolic roller cam with "stock" timing
Inlet valves: 33.02mm
Exhaust valves: 30.48mm
Supercharger: Single Eaton M62-A 10psi max
Bonneville: 96.3 hp per L
Lotus: 100hp per L
Close enough by my book especially for having one supercharger instead of 2 turbos.
Bore: 3.800
Stroke: 3.400
Compression ratio: 10.4:1
Power: 366hp @ 6500rpm
Head chamber: Unk. metal 4valve per cyl
Valvegear: hydrolic roller cam with "stock" timing
Inlet valves: 33.02mm
Exhaust valves: 30.48mm
Supercharger: Single Eaton M62-A 10psi max
Bonneville: 96.3 hp per L
Lotus: 100hp per L
Close enough by my book especially for having one supercharger instead of 2 turbos.
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Well, being a recent immigrant from Australia, I am going to throw in my 2c on the issue.
My uncle in Australia bought a Honda NSX a couple of years ago. In Australia, that car is a luxury sport car and there is a 50% additional luxury tax on it over the regular taxes and import charges. So his NSX cost him about $240,000 Australian.
Yes, that is a lot, even in Australia. I have driven it and I can say I wouldnt call it a supercar. Its real nice, but not what I would expect for that price. The acceleration wasnt that great. I have a Z28 Camero that I prefer over the rice machine. And it sounds so much better
And talking about cars not being imported to North America, i think its the emissions thing. I used to race some Rally cars and the best cars were Nissan SkyLine and Toyota Celica'*. I dont think the same model cars are available here. The Skyline Rocks
My uncle in Australia bought a Honda NSX a couple of years ago. In Australia, that car is a luxury sport car and there is a 50% additional luxury tax on it over the regular taxes and import charges. So his NSX cost him about $240,000 Australian.
Yes, that is a lot, even in Australia. I have driven it and I can say I wouldnt call it a supercar. Its real nice, but not what I would expect for that price. The acceleration wasnt that great. I have a Z28 Camero that I prefer over the rice machine. And it sounds so much better
And talking about cars not being imported to North America, i think its the emissions thing. I used to race some Rally cars and the best cars were Nissan SkyLine and Toyota Celica'*. I dont think the same model cars are available here. The Skyline Rocks
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karfreek Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:34 pm Post subject:
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I thought the Lotus Esprit held the HP per Liter Title.
Configuration: Aluminum-alloy twin-turbocharged V8, 90 degree cylinder bank angle, single-plane crankshaft.
Bore: 83 mm
Stroke: 81mm
Capacity: 3506 cc
Power: 350 HP @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 295 lb ft @ 4250 rpm
Head Chamber Aluminum alloy, four-valve pent-roof combustion
Valvegear: Dual overhead camshafts with one toothed belt per bank, hydraulic tappets.
Inlet valves: 33.5 mm
Exhaust valves: 30.0 mm
Block: LM25TF aluminum alloy with cast iron "wet" lines, spheroidal graphite cast iron cross-bolted main bearing caps.
Turbochargers: Two Garrett T25 water-cooled, oil lubricated.
Fueling: One primary injector per cylinder, one secondary injector per bank.
Ignition: Four double-ended coils triggered from crankshaft sensor.
Ancillaries: Water pump, alternator, power steering pump, air conditioning compressor.
Weight: 485 lb with ancillaries
Jay
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I thought the Lotus Esprit held the HP per Liter Title.
Configuration: Aluminum-alloy twin-turbocharged V8, 90 degree cylinder bank angle, single-plane crankshaft.
Bore: 83 mm
Stroke: 81mm
Capacity: 3506 cc
Power: 350 HP @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 295 lb ft @ 4250 rpm
Head Chamber Aluminum alloy, four-valve pent-roof combustion
Valvegear: Dual overhead camshafts with one toothed belt per bank, hydraulic tappets.
Inlet valves: 33.5 mm
Exhaust valves: 30.0 mm
Block: LM25TF aluminum alloy with cast iron "wet" lines, spheroidal graphite cast iron cross-bolted main bearing caps.
Turbochargers: Two Garrett T25 water-cooled, oil lubricated.
Fueling: One primary injector per cylinder, one secondary injector per bank.
Ignition: Four double-ended coils triggered from crankshaft sensor.
Ancillaries: Water pump, alternator, power steering pump, air conditioning compressor.
Weight: 485 lb with ancillaries
Jay
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anyone play Gran Turismo 2?? wanna know anything about a car....look on there!
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Originally Posted by buzzbomber88le
karfreek Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:34 pm Post subject:
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I thought the Lotus Esprit held the HP per Liter Title.
Configuration: Aluminum-alloy twin-turbocharged V8, 90 degree cylinder bank angle, single-plane crankshaft.
Bore: 83 mm
Stroke: 81mm
Capacity: 3506 cc
Power: 350 HP @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 295 lb ft @ 4250 rpm
Head Chamber Aluminum alloy, four-valve pent-roof combustion
Valvegear: Dual overhead camshafts with one toothed belt per bank, hydraulic tappets.
Inlet valves: 33.5 mm
Exhaust valves: 30.0 mm
Block: LM25TF aluminum alloy with cast iron "wet" lines, spheroidal graphite cast iron cross-bolted main bearing caps.
Turbochargers: Two Garrett T25 water-cooled, oil lubricated.
Fueling: One primary injector per cylinder, one secondary injector per bank.
Ignition: Four double-ended coils triggered from crankshaft sensor.
Ancillaries: Water pump, alternator, power steering pump, air conditioning compressor.
Weight: 485 lb with ancillaries
Jay
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I thought the Lotus Esprit held the HP per Liter Title.
Configuration: Aluminum-alloy twin-turbocharged V8, 90 degree cylinder bank angle, single-plane crankshaft.
Bore: 83 mm
Stroke: 81mm
Capacity: 3506 cc
Power: 350 HP @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 295 lb ft @ 4250 rpm
Head Chamber Aluminum alloy, four-valve pent-roof combustion
Valvegear: Dual overhead camshafts with one toothed belt per bank, hydraulic tappets.
Inlet valves: 33.5 mm
Exhaust valves: 30.0 mm
Block: LM25TF aluminum alloy with cast iron "wet" lines, spheroidal graphite cast iron cross-bolted main bearing caps.
Turbochargers: Two Garrett T25 water-cooled, oil lubricated.
Fueling: One primary injector per cylinder, one secondary injector per bank.
Ignition: Four double-ended coils triggered from crankshaft sensor.
Ancillaries: Water pump, alternator, power steering pump, air conditioning compressor.
Weight: 485 lb with ancillaries
Jay
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