BMW owners gives the Bonneville 2 thumbs up
12-25-2004, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by opensourceguy
No, I have not driven a car with "Magnasteer" however I recently drove an '00 Neon [I know, the epitome of great engineering], but it had something like that. The owner [a friend of mine] says he has some sort of electronic steering, but he doesn't know much about it. I felt that 'numb' feeling.. while my car gives me feedback. IMO, I couldn't be happier with my steering. The only thing I wish for, is some new PS lines.. so they stop leaking.
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12-26-2004, 01:45 PM
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It goes to show that magazines who love Bimmers love it for qualities not too many real world Americans care for. The instant familiar feel of the Bonneville, just-right ride, broad bucket seats (most Bonnes), throttle response, and high fuel economy chimes right in with what Americans want.
12-26-2004, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by opensourceguy
How can you guys like that Magnasteer junk? It'* so numb feeling. I like my good ol' regular power steering. It'* easy when parked or slow moving, then good and firm at higher speeds. Plus I get amazing feedback. I know exactly what my car is doing, and I like that.
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12-26-2004, 02:51 PM
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Gen 1 Magnsteer < Gen 2 Magnasteer in the post 2000 but I love having it. I refuse to park nose-in when parking in a parking lot and Magnasteer makes it WAY easier to navigate a large 4000 lb vessel at low speed.
I found parking a 94 GP SE in a space then backed mine in, amazing to feel the difference one after the other.
Funny how Magnasteer'd car owners love it (mostly) and non Magnasteer'd car owners dislkie it :?
Parking a 2 ton car with one or two fingers is great.
I found parking a 94 GP SE in a space then backed mine in, amazing to feel the difference one after the other.
Funny how Magnasteer'd car owners love it (mostly) and non Magnasteer'd car owners dislkie it :?
Parking a 2 ton car with one or two fingers is great.
12-27-2004, 12:53 AM
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My family has a Magnasteer vehicle @ 3 tons... Trucks shouldn't turn so lightly.... Atleast not ones with an offroad package. When we were outwest on trails i found it hard to feel what the car was doing exactly in the corners. It'* great for parking and stuff yes, but not for edge of your seat driving.
Or Yukons just have a very disconnected feel to them. It'* the only real thing i'd change about the stock truck personally. But damn is it capable off road.
Or Yukons just have a very disconnected feel to them. It'* the only real thing i'd change about the stock truck personally. But damn is it capable off road.
12-27-2004, 01:06 AM
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Our SSEi and GTP both have Magnasteer and its awesome IMO. At lower speeds (like under 10mph) it seems like it doesn't require enough effort to me, but I love how it stiffens up as you go faster. (moreso than a normal car) It seems to me like you can feel the road better. I would rather have magnasteer over the regular power steering I have in my GP and Calais.
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12-27-2004, 02:00 AM
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Having owned a '93 SSE, a '95 SSE, and a '99 540i, I conclude that:
Both the Bonnie and the Bimmer are nice cars.
(What, were you expecting something profound?
)
Both the Bonnie and the Bimmer are nice cars.
(What, were you expecting something profound?
)
12-27-2004, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BonneMeMN
My family has a Magnasteer vehicle @ 3 tons... Trucks shouldn't turn so lightly.... Atleast not ones with an offroad package. When we were outwest on trails i found it hard to feel what the car was doing exactly in the corners. It'* great for parking and stuff yes, but not for edge of your seat driving.
Or Yukons just have a very disconnected feel to them. It'* the only real thing i'd change about the stock truck personally. But damn is it capable off road.
Or Yukons just have a very disconnected feel to them. It'* the only real thing i'd change about the stock truck personally. But damn is it capable off road.
All GM trucks I have driven (full size) have soft steering with no road feel.. it'* a truck.. I assure you the cars are different if you ever want to give on a try. 
12-27-2004, 03:18 PM
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I've driven pleny of other ones as well. I don't mind my power steering at all. They just feel dead. :?
Yeah i know the Yukon is bad, but it'* a 98. I've driven a few of the newer 1500 and 2500 HD trucks and SUV'*, and those seem worse to me.
Yeah i know the Yukon is bad, but it'* a 98. I've driven a few of the newer 1500 and 2500 HD trucks and SUV'*, and those seem worse to me.