INTERMEDIATE SHAFT ..look here before ask
01-14-2008, 12:33 PM
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01-18-2008, 02:06 AM
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I always wondered what that noise was. I really didn't pay any attention to it cause it only really does it when i back out of the drive way. I will keep an eye on it now and if i have to buy it not sure if i can put it in my self though lol.
01-19-2008, 02:03 PM
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I was at the dealer getting some work done and I had them pull a repair report on the car. The previous owner who I knew had bought the car at this dealer and had all his work done there as well. The shaft was replaced 3 times before original warranty had run out. I had it greased myself at 45000 miles. It is doing it again at 75000. The service manager had said that the new design is doing the same thing. He also said that the new G6'* are doing it as well. Wake up GM!!!! Time for a reality check.
01-28-2008, 06:45 AM
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Skipped a few pages, but thought I'd share that this happened right at warranty for me. I was literally 50 miles past 36,000 and and three weeks past three years (how'* that for timing?). The dealership set me up on warranty, but it sounds like a very common problem for at least 2000+ Bonnies...
02-15-2008, 06:11 PM
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2001 SSEi Intermediate shaft clunk. May 2006 TSB?
Anyone out there have the May 2006 technical service bullitin about the latest newest intermediate steering shaft from GM? I think it is GM part number that replaces all previous GM part numbers for intermdiate steering shaft. Can I get a copy of it?
My SSEi is on its third (3-different part #*). The current part is new Jan 2006, clunk came back Aug 2007, Dealer did the "old lube job" trick which lasted about a two months or a 1000 miles, so I took it back in October 2007 to be told "There is a new part in town"... you have to pay us another $389 or so to fix yer car! I left, found out the new part had been available since 2006 so sent a DTPA demand letter and will probably sue for the heck of it. Does this new GM shaft work?
My SSEi is on its third (3-different part #*). The current part is new Jan 2006, clunk came back Aug 2007, Dealer did the "old lube job" trick which lasted about a two months or a 1000 miles, so I took it back in October 2007 to be told "There is a new part in town"... you have to pay us another $389 or so to fix yer car! I left, found out the new part had been available since 2006 so sent a DTPA demand letter and will probably sue for the heck of it. Does this new GM shaft work?
02-19-2008, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 300sflyer
I just replace the shaft in my 03 I just bought over the holidays. It had been lubed at least once before, but the noise had returned. The new one is working perfectly.
You can see from the picture, the new shaft has been redesigned. The old part # is 26100571. The new one is 26068295. Lets hope this one remains silent!
When I called my local GM dealer here in Canada to get a price on this new shaft, they quoted me $279.00 plus tax!
Talk about being "shafted"!! 
When I contacted http://allgmparts.net/ they sold me one for just over $100.00. The exact same part! They sent it via the post office for about $12.00.
You can see from the picture, the new shaft has been redesigned. The old part # is 26100571. The new one is 26068295. Lets hope this one remains silent!
When I called my local GM dealer here in Canada to get a price on this new shaft, they quoted me $279.00 plus tax!
Talk about being "shafted"!! When I contacted http://allgmparts.net/ they sold me one for just over $100.00. The exact same part! They sent it via the post office for about $12.00.That one fits just like the old one does?
02-20-2008, 03:37 PM
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Excellent techinfo Archon. Can't say I am surprised as your know how has saved my *** more than once now. About how long is this fix taking you guys to do?
02-20-2008, 03:56 PM
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Talltexan - This is the TSB you asked about. Sorry it took a while. I often miss when new posts have been added to some of the older stickies.
1994se - Depending on how quickly you work, and how much was already done, it would take maybe an hour to hour and a half to remove and reinstall. If you are to lube it also, that will depend on how much lube you want to get in there. Add about another half hour for that.
Steering - Steering Column Clunk Felt/Heard on Turns
Bulletin No.: 06-02-35-010
Date: May 09, 2006
TECHNICAL
Subject:
Clunk Felt/Noise Heard From Steering Column, Steering Gear and/or Front of Vehicle During Maneuver and/or Steering Wheel Rotation (Replace Intermediate Shaft)
Models:
2001-2004 Cadillac Seville - with RPO JL4
2001-2003 Oldsmobile Aurora
2000-2005 Pontiac Bonneville
Attention: This bulletin ONLY applies to the above listed vehicles. All other cars with a similar condition should refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 01-02-32-001G.
Condition
Some customers may comment on a clunk type noise coming from the front of the vehicle while driving during a turning maneuver. This condition may also be felt through the steering wheel when the vehicle is stationary and the wheel is rotated from steering stop to steering stop. Some vehicles may only exhibit the noise once for every 360°of wheel rotation. On all other vehicles, this clunk noise will be noticed during low speed acceleration or deceleration, typically in light turns of the steering wheel.
Cause
This condition may be caused by inadequate lubrication of the steering intermediate shaft which results in a slip stick condition possibly resulting in the clunk noise.
Diagnostic Tip
Important: This condition is commonly misdiagnosed as originating in the steering gear and has resulted in the replacement of numerous steering gears without correcting the concern.
Engineering Investigation shows that numerous steering gears have been misdiagnosed and replaced. The investigations shows that if the technician incorrectly diagnoses the steering gear as the cause of the noise and/or clunk during replacement of the steering gear, the technician may stroke and/or cycle the I-shaft, distributing the original grease in the I-shaft. This distribution of the original I-shaft grease temporarily may eliminate the I-shaft clunk so that the technician believes the noise and/or clunk is corrected with the steering gear replacement and returns the vehicle to the customer. After the customer drives the vehicles for several miles and dissipates the original grease, the noise may return.
Attempt to duplicate the customer'* concern and isolate the I-shaft by following the procedure below:
1. Locate a large area (parking lot) where the vehicle can be turned in a tight circle.
2. Turn the steering wheel to the right and/or left all the way to the steering lock, then off the steering lock a 1/4 turn.
3. Drive the vehicle approximately 5 km/h (3 mph) in a circle, preferably over rough pavement or seams on the road surface.
4. If a clunk is felt in the steering wheel, the MOST likely cause is the I-shaft - not the steering gear. Continue with the correction.
Correction
Important: The replacement steering intermediate shaft is physically different in appearance than the original. However, the vehicle'* ride performance will not be affected.
Replace the original concentric style steering shaft with P/N 26068295, a Double "D" design. Refer to Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement in SI.
Bulletin No.: 06-02-35-010
Date: May 09, 2006
TECHNICAL
Subject:
Clunk Felt/Noise Heard From Steering Column, Steering Gear and/or Front of Vehicle During Maneuver and/or Steering Wheel Rotation (Replace Intermediate Shaft)
Models:
2001-2004 Cadillac Seville - with RPO JL4
2001-2003 Oldsmobile Aurora
2000-2005 Pontiac Bonneville
Attention: This bulletin ONLY applies to the above listed vehicles. All other cars with a similar condition should refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 01-02-32-001G.
Condition
Some customers may comment on a clunk type noise coming from the front of the vehicle while driving during a turning maneuver. This condition may also be felt through the steering wheel when the vehicle is stationary and the wheel is rotated from steering stop to steering stop. Some vehicles may only exhibit the noise once for every 360°of wheel rotation. On all other vehicles, this clunk noise will be noticed during low speed acceleration or deceleration, typically in light turns of the steering wheel.
Cause
This condition may be caused by inadequate lubrication of the steering intermediate shaft which results in a slip stick condition possibly resulting in the clunk noise.
Diagnostic Tip
Important: This condition is commonly misdiagnosed as originating in the steering gear and has resulted in the replacement of numerous steering gears without correcting the concern.
Engineering Investigation shows that numerous steering gears have been misdiagnosed and replaced. The investigations shows that if the technician incorrectly diagnoses the steering gear as the cause of the noise and/or clunk during replacement of the steering gear, the technician may stroke and/or cycle the I-shaft, distributing the original grease in the I-shaft. This distribution of the original I-shaft grease temporarily may eliminate the I-shaft clunk so that the technician believes the noise and/or clunk is corrected with the steering gear replacement and returns the vehicle to the customer. After the customer drives the vehicles for several miles and dissipates the original grease, the noise may return.
Attempt to duplicate the customer'* concern and isolate the I-shaft by following the procedure below:
1. Locate a large area (parking lot) where the vehicle can be turned in a tight circle.
2. Turn the steering wheel to the right and/or left all the way to the steering lock, then off the steering lock a 1/4 turn.
3. Drive the vehicle approximately 5 km/h (3 mph) in a circle, preferably over rough pavement or seams on the road surface.
4. If a clunk is felt in the steering wheel, the MOST likely cause is the I-shaft - not the steering gear. Continue with the correction.
Correction
Important: The replacement steering intermediate shaft is physically different in appearance than the original. However, the vehicle'* ride performance will not be affected.
Replace the original concentric style steering shaft with P/N 26068295, a Double "D" design. Refer to Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement in SI.
02-21-2008, 09:18 AM
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OK, my 03 SSEi has started this same clunking in the steering. Should I go ahead and try the grease job on the existing shaft of should I just replace with the new "improved" version? What seems to be the concensus here? I guess I should actually feel lucky that it hasn't exhibited this condition before now (55K bought it with 24K). It appears that it is about the same amount of work whether I grease it or just replace it.
Feedback please.
Feedback please.
02-21-2008, 10:06 AM
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Whether to lube or replace is more of a personal choice. There'* a little less work with replacing it, as you don't have to take the time to lube it. However, there is more cost involved. I don't believe we've had any firm feedback saying that the new shaft has totally solved the problem. It has possibilities, with double D design versus the splined shaft, and it appears as if the upper U joint has been changed, which also was part of the problem. So far, I've just been lubing the old one, but plan on buying the new shaft - sometime. 