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Old May 19, 2022 | 12:44 PM
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Hi, I have a question that I can't find an answer to. How do you put a newer 2021 yukon or newer into Neutral to tow it if you can't start the engine. I have read the manual and it says nothing. I have seen tow companies just drag them onto flatbeds because they have no other way to get them on. There has to be a way to do it. I have checked putting the vehicle in accessory, that does not work. I tried putting it into service mode and that does not work either. I did see that if you put it into service mode and press 2H 5 times it will try to shift into neutral but goes back to the previous trans setting. Anyone have any info on this?

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Old May 19, 2022 | 12:47 PM
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that is supposed to say tow.
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Old May 19, 2022 | 01:05 PM
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Engine must be running to engage neutral. Once in neutral it can be turned off. The park pawl must have hydraulic pressure (aka engine on trans pump working) to release it.No power it needs a special tool. Dealer should have it as it is a dealer essential tool.

DT-52910 Manual Park Release Tool. Hopefully these tow guys start forking over the $181 for the tool.
https://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/top...ral-no-engine/

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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 03:46 AM
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key on engine off, put in neutral
doesnt need to be started for neutral

would probably kill the battery though

Id suggest yanking the driveshafts. That way, it cannot possibly be in drive to wheels, keys can be out the ignition and doors can be locked and whatnot.
but im 100% percent more stubborn than smart. I would be pulling driveshafts, personally.
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ChevyJankExorcist
key on engine off, put in neutral
doesnt need to be started for neutral
Id suggest yanking the driveshafts. That way, it cannot possibly be in drive to wheels, keys can be out the ignition and doors can be locked and whatnot.
but im 100% percent more stubborn than smart. I would be pulling driveshafts, personally.
Not sure if you are correct, but what I am reading completely contradicts your statement.
The park pawl must have hydraulic pressure (aka engine on trans pump working) to release it
Thus the requirement for a special tool to release the parking pawl if engine can't be run.​​​​​​​
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Hi, I have a question that I can't find an answer to. How do you put a newer 2021 yukon or newer into Neutral to tow it if you can't start the engine. I have read the manual and it says nothing. I have seen tow companies just drag them onto flatbeds because they have no other way to get them on. There has to be a way to do it. I have checked putting the vehicle in accessory, that does not work. I tried putting it into service mode and that does not work either. I did see that if you put it into service mode and press 2H 5 times it will try to shift into neutral but goes back to the previous trans setting. Anyone have any info on this?

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From pages 238 and 239 of the 2021 GMC Yukon Owner'* Manual:

To shift into N (Neutral):
1. Start the vehicle.
2. Shift the transmission to N (Neutral).
3. Shift the transfer case to 2 m.
4. Apply the parking brake and/or brake pedal.
5. Press 2 m five times in 10 seconds until the N (Neutral) graphic starts flashing in the instrument cluster. When the shift is complete, the graphic stops flashing. If the parking brake and/or brake pedal is not applied within 20 seconds, the transfer case will remain in the original state.
6. If the transmission is not shifted into N (Neutral) or the vehicle has not slowed to 5 km/h (3 mph) within 20 seconds, the transfer case will remain in its original state. This will be indicated in the instrument cluster.

Shifting Out of N (Neutral)

To shift out of N (Neutral):
1. Turn the ignition on with the engine off. See Ignition Positions 0 226.
2. Set the parking brake. See Electric Parking Brake 0 240.
3. Shift the transmission to N (Neutral).
4. Shift the transfer case to 2 m. Transfer case shifts out of N (Neutral) can only be made into 2 m. When the shift to 2 m is complete, the graphic in the instrument cluster will stop flashing. If the transfer case cannot complete a shift, the graphic will return to the previously selected setting.

With everything else in normal state (no service mode etc.) try this out, step by step, and report back.
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Old Jul 3, 2022 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ChevyJankExorcist
key on engine off, put in neutral
doesnt need to be started for neutral

would probably kill the battery though

Id suggest yanking the driveshafts. That way, it cannot possibly be in drive to wheels, keys can be out the ignition and doors can be locked and whatnot.
but im 100% percent more stubborn than smart. I would be pulling driveshafts, personally.
ChevyJankExorcist, I'm curious: Have you done this on a similar vehicle? What transmission was installed and what were the results? How far did you tow it?

From page 234 of the owner'* manual:

Car Wash Mode (Engine Off – Driver in Vehicle)
To place the vehicle in N (Neutral) with the engine off and the vehicle occupied:
1. Drive to the entrance of the car wash.
2. Apply the brake pedal.
3. Shift to N (Neutral).
4. Turn off the engine and release the
brake pedal.
5. The indicator should continue to show N.
If it does not, start the engine and
repeat Steps 2–4.
6. The vehicle is now ready for the
car wash.

Car Wash Mode (Engine Off – Driver out of Vehicle)
To place the vehicle in N (Neutral) with the
engine off and the vehicle unoccupied:
1. Drive to the entrance of the car wash.
2. Apply the brake pedal.
3. Open the door.
4. Shift to N (Neutral).
5. Turn off the engine and release the brake pedal.
6. The indicator should continue to show N. If it does not, start the engine and repeat Steps 2–5.
7. Exit the vehicle and close the door. The vehicle is now ready for the car wash.
8. The vehicle may automatically shift to P (Park) upon re-entry.

Car Wash Mode (Engine On – Driver in Vehicle)
To place the vehicle in N (Neutral) with the engine on and the vehicle occupied:
1. Drive to the entrance of the car wash.
2. Apply the brake pedal.
3. Shift to N (Neutral).
4. Release the brake pedal. The vehicle is now ready for the car wash.

Car Wash Mode (Engine On – Driver out of Vehicle)
To place the vehicle in N (Neutral) with the engine on and the vehicle unoccupied:
1. Drive to the entrance of the car wash.
2. Apply the brake pedal.
3. Open the door.
4. Shift to N (Neutral), then release the brake pedal.
5. The indicator should continue to show N. If it does not, repeat Steps 2–4.
6. Exit the vehicle and close the door. The vehicle is now ready for the car wash.
7. The vehicle may automatically shift to
P (Park) upon re-entry.
So in all cases, the engine must be running to actually perform the shift to Neutral.

It also has a Caution right before all of this:

Caution
The vehicle is not designed to stay in N (Neutral) for extended periods of time. It will automatically shift into P (Park) if left in Car Wash Mode.
I would not tow it for any distance longer than a car wash after reading that it might decide to go back into Park on its own for various reasons. I can't tell from the wording if this automatic return to Park is an electronic process or some other process like a hydraulic circuit bleeding down.

Originally Posted by Mike
Engine must be running to engage neutral. Once in neutral it can be turned off. The park pawl must have hydraulic pressure (aka engine on trans pump working) to release it.No power it needs a special tool. Dealer should have it as it is a dealer essential tool.

DT-52910 Manual Park Release Tool. Hopefully these tow guys start forking over the $181 for the tool.


https://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/top...ral-no-engine/

Tool here...
https://gmtoolsandequipment.com/en-U...ervice%20Level
Reading the 2021 Ford F-150 manual (just about the same transmission) I see similar notes, except they actually have a hidden Park release cable under the dash instead of the extra tool that GM requires.

Originally Posted by rog2867
I have seen tow companies just drag them onto flatbeds because they have no other way to get them on.
Unless the vehicle is heavily loaded I can't see this being too big of a problem. It should be able to happily hold the vehicle'* GVWR in place while parked on a hill. Dragging onto a flatbed without a lot of weight in it would be less stress than that. Not saying I recommend it, but I bet it'* been done a million times already on this transmission without issue. If it were mine though, I'd say "Wait a minute Mr. Professional Tow Truck Guy, the manual says that will damage it, don't you have the Park Release tool?"
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Whatever happened to just pulling a mechanical lever and it actually did what it was suppose to?
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Originally Posted by Mike
Whatever happened to just pulling a mechanical lever and it actually did what it was suppose to?
Those were the days. Now the computers need to give it permission to do anything. I do like all the ratios though.

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Old Jul 6, 2022 | 09:12 AM
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Guess its time to start stocking up on drivetrain parts for my truck so I can make it last another 20 years.
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