So how do you think they'll measure up? I think canning the L67 was a mistake and so is canning the L32. For having 240 hp in the 3.6 VVT LaCrosse, 8.1 sec 0-60mph is really weak. GM knows what their doing though. They know the L67 and L32 have HUGE aftermarkets so they have whole new engines. Insted of buying new cars, L67 powered owners simply mod their cars to stay ahead of the performance race. People who buy 2006 GM cars will be looking at the 5300 for performance and without a aftermarket they'll have to buy new to get faster. I'm sure GM will have a 400hp car in 5 years so people with the 5300 can upgrade. As soon as the 5300 has a aftermarket GM will can it too. You know GM isn't serious about performance because even the 5300 powered cars are FWD. They just wanted to can the engine with the aftermarket.

Isnt the Lacrosse a sedan? That aint too shabby then. I think there should be a line between sedans and sports cars. Then you got to look at reliability, the 3800 series was a good engine, so I agree with you that canning it was a mistake, ONLY if GM screws up on these engines. Which could possibly happen

I can definantly see it happening....

its about time the GM got away from the */C to be equal you other Manufacturers N/A cars. I think that the VVT is a good step, look at it this way it will only use regular as apposed to the Premium that the */C uses


Remember guys look at this from a consumer point of view

Don't forget, the 5.3L V8 is the small-block Chevy V8.




Which has a bigger aftermarket than the 3800, generally speaking.

I didn't even know the 5300 had an aftermarket. Think there are any fast 5300 Silverados out there?

Slap a turbo on a stock Gen III truck (6.0L works best) and you will beat all but one bonnie in this country. It'* been done, go read hot rod.

The L67 isn't the do all, end all of engines, it'* upper RPM power could be much better, it'* HEAVY, and the heads aren't much. The 5.3L v8 is lighter then it, has more power stock, and has more potential.

WIth turbos are Naws there are. But just a regular 5300, not at all. I lined up against a few. Torque is a deadly trick

I don't see how GM is "losing the performance race". The Series III SC is just as powerful as other V6s on the market. If you look at the SeriesIII SC compared to, oh, say, Nissans 3.5v6 in the Maxima, they have the same HP rating, but the Series III SC beat'* it hands down on torque. The problem is not the motor, it'* the inefficient automatic trans, and the weight of the car. If the Grand Prix were to offer a 5-speed, they would dominate the FWD performance market easily.
Unfortunately, GM is locked into the policy of not offering stick shifts in the lower models, except for the smaller engines.

The 3.5 in the Altima also does it all on regular fuel, as far as I know.




But, the Altima now has 246hp

heh, couldn't resist