Ram air duct for intake
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Ram air duct for intake
After chatting with Matt a few days ago, my brain has been churning over a plan for an air duct to feed ambient temperature air into the shielded area of my intake.
My basic plan right now is to use heating duct material to feed air from the fog light area up to the bottom of my box without actually totally sealing off the heat shield from other air sources. My thoughts are to allow the car to get as much air as it needs without causing other heat issues by cutting off air flow to the radiator.
Will this make a difference? Any suggestions before I start measuring and pricing?
My basic plan right now is to use heating duct material to feed air from the fog light area up to the bottom of my box without actually totally sealing off the heat shield from other air sources. My thoughts are to allow the car to get as much air as it needs without causing other heat issues by cutting off air flow to the radiator.
Will this make a difference? Any suggestions before I start measuring and pricing?
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A few thoughts I've had before that I would like to toss out for discussion.
If you are moving then this ducting will supply cooler air....but only if you are moving.
If you moving, isn't the cold air supply pretty good to the insulated box as it sits behind the headlight already?
If you are not moving, you will receive the temp of the air from the general area of the headlight/side of radiator. How quickly does this air heat up when not moving?
Maybe a Turbonator in the ductwork would be a nice thing to have and turn on when sitting still and receiving warm air instead of ducting when you already have a semi good supply of cool air during moving conditions.
I've only thought about this in theory and never done any temp checking to see if there is a true need for ducting when moving. I would rely on the information of those with scanners etc that can see the difference in IAT temps that have checked before and after adding ductwork.
And if you are looking for decent black ducting check full sized vans...frequently they have ductwork to supply air from the front of the vehicle to the intake under the dog house.
If you are moving then this ducting will supply cooler air....but only if you are moving.
If you moving, isn't the cold air supply pretty good to the insulated box as it sits behind the headlight already?
If you are not moving, you will receive the temp of the air from the general area of the headlight/side of radiator. How quickly does this air heat up when not moving?
Maybe a Turbonator in the ductwork would be a nice thing to have and turn on when sitting still and receiving warm air instead of ducting when you already have a semi good supply of cool air during moving conditions.
I've only thought about this in theory and never done any temp checking to see if there is a true need for ducting when moving. I would rely on the information of those with scanners etc that can see the difference in IAT temps that have checked before and after adding ductwork.
And if you are looking for decent black ducting check full sized vans...frequently they have ductwork to supply air from the front of the vehicle to the intake under the dog house.
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Originally Posted by BillBoost37
A few thoughts I've had before that I would like to toss out for discussion.
If you are moving then this ducting will supply cooler air....but only if you are moving.
If you moving, isn't the cold air supply pretty good to the insulated box as it sits behind the headlight already?
If you are not moving, you will receive the temp of the air from the general area of the headlight/side of radiator. How quickly does this air heat up when not moving?
Maybe a Turbonator in the ductwork would be a nice thing to have and turn on when sitting still and receiving warm air instead of ducting when you already have a semi good supply of cool air during moving conditions.
I've only thought about this in theory and never done any temp checking to see if there is a true need for ducting when moving. I would rely on the information of those with scanners etc that can see the difference in IAT temps that have checked before and after adding ductwork.
And if you are looking for decent black ducting check full sized vans...frequently they have ductwork to supply air from the front of the vehicle to the intake under the dog house.
If you are moving then this ducting will supply cooler air....but only if you are moving.
If you moving, isn't the cold air supply pretty good to the insulated box as it sits behind the headlight already?
If you are not moving, you will receive the temp of the air from the general area of the headlight/side of radiator. How quickly does this air heat up when not moving?
Maybe a Turbonator in the ductwork would be a nice thing to have and turn on when sitting still and receiving warm air instead of ducting when you already have a semi good supply of cool air during moving conditions.
I've only thought about this in theory and never done any temp checking to see if there is a true need for ducting when moving. I would rely on the information of those with scanners etc that can see the difference in IAT temps that have checked before and after adding ductwork.
And if you are looking for decent black ducting check full sized vans...frequently they have ductwork to supply air from the front of the vehicle to the intake under the dog house.
On the materials side, I've been looking at some cool materials from Home Depot. I'd be painting and adding more reflectix on the inside facing of the ducts to keep engine heat out.
On the usefulness side, I'm really thinking on the moving angle here. I've read multiple times that cooler air going into the supercharger reduces the chances of KR at WOT. Considering I'm planning on using a smaller pulley and opening the exhaust up, I'm expecting more heat.
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Yes on the KR...overall engine temps are a factor as well. Bill W has a duct that aims cool air at his SC from the outside to reduce temps. And now the added hood vents.
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Originally Posted by willwren
I did it. Makes a big difference in IAT temps.
Originally Posted by Billboost37
Yes on the KR...overall engine temps are a factor as well. Bill W has a duct that aims cool air at his SC from the outside to reduce temps. And now the added hood vents.
Bill, while I love what you did with the hood vents, I'm not going that route because I don't want it to be so obvious that my car is going to be a beast under the hood.
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Mortehl, I'm not talking about my hood vents. Those just vent the heat above the rear manifold.
I have two ram air ducts UNDER the car to forcefeed the CAI and cool the SC/TB. Both run off custom scoops. Mine is perhaps the best-developed and most extensive cooling effort in this regard.
The entire thing is posted. About a year back. Including all my before and after temp data which includes ambient temps, SC temps, and IAT temps at different speeds.
I have two ram air ducts UNDER the car to forcefeed the CAI and cool the SC/TB. Both run off custom scoops. Mine is perhaps the best-developed and most extensive cooling effort in this regard.
The entire thing is posted. About a year back. Including all my before and after temp data which includes ambient temps, SC temps, and IAT temps at different speeds.
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Originally Posted by willwren
Mortehl, I'm not talking about my hood vents. Those just vent the heat above the rear manifold.
I have two ram air ducts UNDER the car to forcefeed the CAI and cool the SC/TB. Both run off custom scoops. Mine is perhaps the best-developed and most extensive cooling effort in this regard.
The entire thing is posted. About a year back. Including all my before and after temp data which includes ambient temps, SC temps, and IAT temps at different speeds.
I have two ram air ducts UNDER the car to forcefeed the CAI and cool the SC/TB. Both run off custom scoops. Mine is perhaps the best-developed and most extensive cooling effort in this regard.
The entire thing is posted. About a year back. Including all my before and after temp data which includes ambient temps, SC temps, and IAT temps at different speeds.
Just to clarify, I know the hood vents and the air ducts are seperate systems with different purposes. I quoted both you and Boosty so I didn't have to double post. I like the idea of the ram ducts, but I'm not hot on the hood vent idea.