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firebuick 05-24-2007 12:29 PM

high speed fan override
 
does anyone know which wire to ground for the high speed fan i would think its the same wire that make the fan go on when the a/c on this is for my 98 regal L36

Boreas 06-12-2007 05:10 PM

Theres a thread by Wilwren on how to do it. Im currently searching for the same thread.

Edit: Here is a thread by Wilwren for 92-95 (96???):
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...hlight=cooling

And here is for a 97:
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...d+fan+override

willwren 06-12-2007 05:46 PM

There's two ways to do it. I currently have it done through the relay on the SLE, but I'm tied directly into the PCM on the SSEi now. No wires through the firewall (for me, the PCM is actually in the cabin on both cars).

firebuick 06-12-2007 07:25 PM

i have no dark blue wire on mine and my relays are differend on a 1998 so did anyone do it on a 98 plus .i have 3 relays that are for the fans

bandit 06-12-2007 08:21 PM

hhmmmm

So i looked im my FSM and it said "Blue connector, Drk GRN/WHT wire" for the high speed relay going to the PCM. i taped into it and grounded it and fans did not turn on :?
but the Check Engine light did :? good thing it went off when i turned it back on, also good thing i have a spare PCM lol

But i did just read in Willwrens old post that someone said that they could not get this working on a 95, witch means sense i have the same PCM as a 95... i dont think this will work for 94&95's

willwren 06-12-2007 08:40 PM

PCM connections are different. Where (what topic) did you get that information from? What year was it for?

I have my original 'happy box' schematic around here somewhere. I'll dig it up and tell you which wire you SHOULD have used.

bandit 06-12-2007 08:42 PM

no thats right out of my 94 FSM. for the Blue C3 connector.

and now that i look at my relay under the hood, i have a blue wire coming out that and in the FSM it says that will turn on the relay

hmmm this is weird...

TJ'sblackbonne 06-12-2007 08:44 PM

;) Works on a 95, i just wrote about it like yesterday lol. The only thing is that i must turn the car on to turn the fans on. I cant turn them on if the key is just on acc. But i can start the car, and shut it off and leave it on acc, and not off and they stay on.

willwren 06-12-2007 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by willwren
Duh.

:slaps forehead:


My happy box wiring wouldn't apply to a 95 anyway. That was on the 93 (works good too!) :D

Found the missing volume.

1. Remove the passenger side kickpanel above the passenger footwell (below the glovebox).

2. Remove the 10mm bolt from the black bracket that holds the SILVER colored PCM.

3. Spit, curse, and rant as you wiggle that PCM out of it's tight freaking hole.

4. Now that it's somewhat accessible, disconnect the negative terminal from the battery.

5. Locate connector D on the PCM. I have no clue what color it is on the 95, as I've never had it out of my SLE. It should have a dark blue wire on position 10. For reference it should also have a dark green wire on 11, Brn/wht on 13, dk grn/wht on 15, tan on 1 and 2, pnk/blk on 4, purple on 3, grn/wht on 12, dk blue on 16, and red/blk on 3. This is to help you identify the right connector. Regardless, wire TEN (10) is dark blue.

6. Get an inline splice. Tie IN to that wire. Do not cut it. You're creating a branch in the circuit.

7. Run that NEW wire branched into pin 10 through a switch, and then to ground (that wire comes in to one contact of the switch, the other contact to ground......any wire going into metal in the passenger compartment).

What you're doing is not waiting for the PCM request for the high speed fans. The PCM controls the ground to the high speed fan relay. You give it that ground when YOU want it.

Questions?


TJ'sblackbonne 06-12-2007 08:45 PM

Yup that was wrote to me and exactly how i did it and works great, thanx again ;)

bandit 06-12-2007 08:48 PM

for any 94.. hold on sec. cuz theres something weird... my FSM shows that D10 is yes a Blue Wire but... its for the TPS :?

willwren 06-12-2007 08:50 PM

You have a spare PCM? I smell misprint. Roll the dice and do as my advice above says.

TJ'sblackbonne 06-12-2007 08:53 PM

It worked for me perfect butt........ almost half the colors that willwren said were not the right colors. Some were, like the first 2 being tan, 10th being blue, and a few others but some were wrong. I forget exactly what ones but they were way off lol, like you said purple and the were green or something ;)

bandit 06-12-2007 09:17 PM

Well i used my multi-meter and and the two wires seemed to be connected, But......
when i tested it, it did not turn on the fans. but when i tested it right to the Relay it worked.

So, Sense the FSM can not seem to get its wires and colors right for the PCM, im just gonna run a wire to the relay for now.

and just like TJ'sblackbonne said, my colors in the FSM did not match any of the colors next to the blue wire. in fact i could not match it up anywhere :lol:

so i think that way im going to find the wire inside is to just try to match the DRK BLUE wire from the relay to the inside. but thats not going to happen until it cools down some :lol:


*edit*
So its all hooked up and working :)
Just did it right to the relay.

and Just for Reference.


94 se High Speed Fan Relay is a DRK BLUE wire at the Relay.

just in case someone is reading this and misses that park :lol:

Boreas 06-15-2007 11:49 AM

Im not an electrician, in fact I have no friggin clue about electronics. So my question is, where can I find my ground?

bandit 06-15-2007 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Boreas
Im not an electrician, in fact I have no friggin clue about electronics. So my question is, where can I find my ground?

any bolts that goes into the car body...

or there are two under the hood the form front of each inner fender. you will see a few ground wires going to them.

the best bet is to just find a ground inside the car. use a bolt on the Kick panel or make your own. or you could even use the Ground for the Light in the ask tray or Cig lighter.

firebuick 06-19-2007 06:57 PM

well found the blue wire but i have only one fan going on high speed whit or whitout the ignition switch on .i know now my fan are ok because they both work whit the ac on did anyone have the same thing on a 98


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