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Marik_bathory 04-27-2006 10:55 AM

180 degree thermostat question
 
hey all,
i've been trolling a bit and noticed that most of you guys have swapped down to a 180 degree thermostat, some are using a 160. i have a mostly stock (intake and ignition mods) '95 L27. i figured the 180 would be my best bet.

i noticed some people mentioned drilling the t-stat before installation, but i haven't seen any details beyond that. does anyone have a picture of a drilled T-stat or a least a good explanation of what exactly to do?

thanks
-Marik

bonnie94ssei 04-27-2006 10:59 AM

The 180 will be best for you since you are practically stock. 160 is for more heavily modified cars. Drilling the 180 keeps a small but constant flow of coolant all the time, good for hot climates. It consists of drilling 1/16" holes on the inside of the rim of the t-stat. The holes should generally be equal distance away from each other, probably not vital, but I'd do it that way. 2 holes should also be sufficient for most people.

That's all I can tell you. I don't have any pics. :)

BillBoost37 04-27-2006 11:08 AM

Actually anything less than a 180 T stat should set a check engine light. And drilling holes is normally done on supercharged to increase the flow ability during boost periods where temps can spike quickly.

You are sure you have a 95 L27 and not a 95 L36? I'm unsure if the vans got the new motor a year after the Bonne or not.

Marik_bathory 04-27-2006 11:11 AM

yeah the vans kept the L-27 another year, you know, to get rid of all the crap...

thanks guys

banned3800 04-27-2006 11:13 AM

No Bonnies for 1995 got the L27, If they were Natrually Aspirated they got the L36 NA 3800 Series II motor... The Buick Lesabre and I think Buick Reagal still got the L27 Series I engine... I think the Olds 98 and Buick Park Avenue also got the series II if they were NA'd..

Yes on stock programming go no lower than a 180F T Stat, 160 will be too low..

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banned3800 04-27-2006 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Marik_bathory
yeah the vans kept the L-27 another year, you know, to get rid of all the crap...

thanks guys

Ahh Ok that makes sense..

The TPI 3800 was a good motor and was more than up to the task of moving the transport around...

I guess we should say that some of the H,W and U Body( Minivan ) retained the L27 TPI 3800 for the 1995 Model year where the others went to the new L36...

But with that L27, some TR55's, An intake, 180 T Stat, may make it feel a bit better...

Also can you look at the RPO list? I think its located behind pannel in the rear of the van... I'm wondering what gear ratio you have with that 3800... I'm thinking 3.06, I know in 96 they were using a 3.29 ratio with the 3400...

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big_news_1 04-27-2006 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by BillBoost37
You are sure you have a 95 L27 and not a 95 L36? I'm unsure if the vans got the new motor a year after the Bonne or not.

IIRC from another thread, there weren't any Pontiac vans that got the Series 2. I think somebody said that in '96 they switched to a 3.4 or something like that.

lash 04-27-2006 11:20 AM

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You live in Florida (Welcome to BC, BTW! :D ), so it won't hurt you to drill your T'stat. Here's a pic for you, but this is two 1/8" holes. You might want to go smaller, like 1/16"-3/32". ;) Also, like said, stick with the 180*.

Edit: the pic, courtesy of harofreak00:
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Hey, I live in Deltona. I'm like 30 minutes away.

harofreak00 04-27-2006 11:23 AM

lash forgot the pic, then added it later, but here is another angle

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...2/DSC01251.jpg

lash 04-27-2006 11:28 AM

Note the 2 holes opposite each other...


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