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ifurlong Jul 23, 2022 06:15 PM

How can I tell if I have a FWD or RWD 3800 Series II
 
I just bought a 3800 Series II for a Jeep CJ swap. The guy I bought it from is a mechanic and he said he pulled it from a RWD Olds. But how can I tell for sure? all I have is the block and heads.

carfixer007 Jul 23, 2022 06:28 PM

The engine doesn't care if it's in a FWD or RWD.

CathedralCub Jul 23, 2022 11:17 PM

There was never a 3800 Series 2 factory installed in a RWD Oldsmobile.

ifurlong Jul 24, 2022 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by carfixer007 (Post 1644416)
The engine doesn't care if it's in a FWD or RWD.

But I though the motor mounts were different, the oil filter placement was different, and the accessory mounts were different?

CathedralCub Jul 24, 2022 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by ifurlong (Post 1644418)
But I though the motor mounts were different, the oil filter placement was different, and the accessory mounts were different?

Either way, there was never a 3800 Series 2 factory installed in a RWD Oldsmobile.

If your mechanic pulled it from an Oldsmobile then it is FWD.


Personally I know of no difference between FWD and RWD short and long blocks. I looked around on the Internet and found no (credible) others that know of a difference.

Then I found this thread which also seems to think that there's no difference: https://www.gmforum.com/performance-...vs-rwd-239733/

You might want to go back to the guy you bought it from and ask what model and year of Oldsmobile it came out of.

Mike Jul 25, 2022 09:13 AM

There are factory RWD 3800 Series 2 engines. Yes, they do have different intake systems and oil filter mounts.

Wow, a google search and the first result is me actually saying the same things...


Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1427454)
I know of a mid 90's Trans Am?, that has the 3800 in them. Last I knew, the intake was different, and the oil filter bracket is different(due to placement in the engine bay).
I don't know what trans it had.


CathedralCub Jul 26, 2022 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1644422)
There are factory RWD 3800 Series 2 engines. Yes, they do have different intake systems and oil filter mounts.

But . . .


Originally Posted by ifurlong (Post 1644415)
the block and heads

. . . are the same, right?

Mike Jul 26, 2022 09:18 AM

Correct. The block and heads are the same.

During my quick research yesterday, found someone had to re-TIG a different snout for the M90 supercharger to work in a RWD environment.

CathedralCub Jul 27, 2022 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1644438)
Correct. The block and heads are the same.

During my quick research yesterday, found someone had to re-TIG a different snout for the M90 supercharger to work in a RWD environment.

Interesting, for hood clearance or belt alignment or . . . ?

Mike Jul 27, 2022 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by CathedralCub (Post 1644441)
Interesting, for hood clearance or belt alignment or . . . ?

The inlet of the M90 supercharger faces the firewall and apparently gets pretty close to it when its in a RWD environment.

IMO, I wouldn't mind gutting a hood just to make a RWD 3800 L67 fit. Heck, I'd make an electric clutch for it just like Mad Max.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...17f647bd7a.jpg


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