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boysatt Jan 2, 2008 04:48 PM

Delta 88 Cam Sensor Error?????
 
Got a 94 Olds Delta 88 Royal with the 3.8. It runs perfect and has no problems other than the damn cam sensor code. I put a new cam sensor in and, it didn't help any. While I had the sensor out, I took a mirror and looked through the hole to check the magnet, its still there and the plastic is not broken. The magnet is fairly strong as I put a 3/8 drive socket up to it and it stuck pretty good, so the magnet is fairly strong. That leads me to believe the magnet is good. So if the magnet is good and the sensor is good, where do I look next?? Its driving me nuts, I keep getting both cam sensor codes, 41 and 42.

Anyone have any ideas?

samueljackson Jan 2, 2008 04:52 PM

the cam signal goes thru the icm. to the pcm. so you first need to check for continuity between the cam sens harness and the icm. then from the icm to the pcm.

i have a book for 92 and 93, but not the 94-94. i know they are different. someone will chime in on the pin-outs.

41 is total loss of signal, so may be a loose wire or the icm?

J Wikoff Jan 2, 2008 05:21 PM

A common problem is that the magnet in the cam gear breaks loose. The magnet goes into the cam gear from the back, so it's a pain to replace properly. But it can be done by JB welding a new magnet to the cam gear through the sensor hole in the timing cover.

boysatt Jan 2, 2008 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by samueljackson
the cam signal goes thru the icm. to the pcm. so you first need to check for continuity between the cam sens harness and the icm. then from the icm to the pcm.

i have a book for 92 and 93, but not the 94-94. i know they are different. someone will chime in on the pin-outs.

41 is total loss of signal, so may be a loose wire or the icm?

What is the icm? and where is it located?

samueljackson Jan 2, 2008 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by J Wikoff
A common problem is that the magnet in the cam gear breaks loose. The magnet goes into the cam gear from the back, so it's a pain to replace properly. But it can be done by JB welding a new magnet to the cam gear through the sensor hole in the timing cover.

he mentioned that he can see the magnet, and it held a 3/8 socket.



the icm is the ignition control module, come on you knew that. the module under the 3 coils.

boysatt Jan 2, 2008 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by samueljackson

Originally Posted by J Wikoff
A common problem is that the magnet in the cam gear breaks loose. The magnet goes into the cam gear from the back, so it's a pain to replace properly. But it can be done by JB welding a new magnet to the cam gear through the sensor hole in the timing cover.

he mentioned that he can see the magnet, and it held a 3/8 socket.



the icm is the ignition control module, come on you knew that. the module under the 3 coils.

after I replied I was looking at the car and it dawned on my Ignition Module, I just never call it a icm. I checked the wiring between the sensor and the module and its good, making good connection. I swapped module with another icm and still throwing a code.

I guess next I need to check between the icm and the ecm. dammit....

Bonnevillan Jan 2, 2008 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by boysatt

Originally Posted by samueljackson

Originally Posted by J Wikoff
A common problem is that the magnet in the cam gear breaks loose. The magnet goes into the cam gear from the back, so it's a pain to replace properly. But it can be done by JB welding a new magnet to the cam gear through the sensor hole in the timing cover.

he mentioned that he can see the magnet, and it held a 3/8 socket.



the icm is the ignition control module, come on you knew that. the module under the 3 coils.

after I replied I was looking at the car and it dawned on my Ignition Module, I just never call it a icm. I checked the wiring between the sensor and the module and its good, making good connection. I swapped module with another icm and still throwing a code.

I guess next I need to check between the icm and the ecm. dammit....

i thought it was the pcm :lol:

samueljackson Jan 2, 2008 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bonnevillan
i thought it was the pcm :lol:

they are one in the same.(mostly). ecm, ecu, pcm, brain, whatever, same part just different names. but technically its pcm, for this application.

boysatt Jan 9, 2008 09:03 PM

I fixed it by replacing the PCM, pretty stupid that that code was caused by a bad pcm and the car had no other problems and drove great.

Mike


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