need some help networking UPDATED
 

okay for the select few of you who saw the issues i was having earlier thats all taken care of, turns out it was the stupid firewall on my machine not letting things go smoothly, i guess its only doing its job though...

i can now see both computers from both computers, i can share printers, and im browsing on a shared connection as i type. i do still have one little problem...

from my computer named Zach, i can do anything i want, i can log onto my moms computer and access files, printers, and do whatever.

from my moms computer i can see mine but i cant access it, when i do it says "logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer"

any thoughts now?

are you both on XP Pro? Is your mom logging in as an administrator?

yes theyre both on XP Pro, i did a search for the error message i was receiving and found what i believe to be the problem, but i cant get it to save my changes properly...

yes my mom is an administrator on her computer.

searching for the error led me to many sites similar to this one http://support.persits.com/show.asp?code=PS01041238

it seems the problem is mainly under NT, i never found one occurence of it for ppl using Windows, this is blowing my freaking mind.

When you entered a password to access the network shares.. did you enter the account info for the local machine, the network machine [the admin of that machine, that was logged in at the time], or the network machine [the admin or reg. user that was NOT logged in at the time]?


-justin

well i know what youre trying to say but both computers do not have passwords on them, i never had to enter any passwords to access shared resources, i wanted it that way.

the name you put in to access the shares must exist on the computer you're trying to connect to.
Say you're on a computer named Zach and you want to access a share on a computer named Mom.
You want to enter the user name that exists on MOM, not your local username.

i dont have to enter anything to access anything. i go to my network places and under workgroup i see two computers "Mom" and "Zach" then i can click on those computers and see all resources available, no passwords, no nothing....

That sounds like your problem right there. I have to enter a password for systems that don't have login passwords. I also have to enter passwords for systems that have passwords [duh].


-justin

ok, try this:
In the Run command Type
MMC
click File>ADD/REMOVE SNAPINS
Click ADD
double Click "Local Computer Policy" (make sure you select your local computer on the next window.)
Then click ok.
Click Close
Click OK
click + next to "Local Computer Policy" to expand tree
+Computer Configuration
+Windows Settings
+Security Settings
+Local Policies
Click User Rights Assignments then look in right window pane

Double Click "access this computer from the network" and add "everyone" as the acceptable users.

double Click "Local Computer Policy" (make sure you select your local computer on the next window.)


the option to click "local computer policy" does not exist, its just not there. or if it is i cant see it, im guessing thats the exact terminology?

this isnt a big deal, but its really tickin me off

sorry. I got confused myself because when you double click "group policy" it automatically changes it to "local computer policy." You should have the "group policy" snap-in though. Trust me, I'm taking classes now to become a MCSE and get frustrated all the time. I often think that I hate this major and want to change it but I'm going to stick with it for now...

victory at last!

custom88 i didnt do anything you said...but im sure it wouldve worked

i got mad at my computer for other reasons besides just the networking, so i just clean installed Windows, after that i set up all my network stuff manualy instead of using the wizard and now it works just fine(figures) i dont have to have any passwords to access resources either..good stuff, thanks for all the help though!

HOWEVER i am having a problem with my firewall, i use ZoneAlarm, i cannot figure out how to allow my moms computer to connect to mine without the firewall goin crazy, i know you can add IP addresses to the trusted zone, but the IP of my moms computer always changes, and the internet connection sharing dealy said that i should keep it that way, but what does microsoft know...any thoughts?

sorry none of what I said helped you out. :lol: :(

What is your setup? Do you have the internet going into your computer through one network card, and then you're sharing the internet through another? You could of just used a switch to get the same thing then you could set static IP addresses and wouldn't have to worry about your mom's address changing all of the time because of DHCP.

How exactly do you have your setup?

i have a dialup modem and then the computers are connected with NICs of course, my mom also has her own modem, but it doesnt factor into this.

the modem is set to obtain an IP address automatically...i dont think it will work any other way, i have the same IP all the time on my NIC and then my moms NIC is set to obtain one automatically.

Ok, you have it setup correctly then. I just assumed you were using broadband, not dialup. (stupid to assume..)

hah yeah i wish i was using broaband, or DSL or cable or heck a freakin ISDN! but sadly im stuck in rural missouri and cant even get true 56k, i get 40k if im lucky, usually 38.6..

but is anyone well versed with zonealarm that can tell me what to do? it seems like i tried making the NIC on my moms computer have one IP address and the ICS didnt work right...i cant remember ive slept since then, but i will try that when i get home.

i also tried allowing an IP range to be trusted, but that didnt seem to work either, the IP is always the same except for the last digit so i set a range from 0 to 255...no dice

you should be able to still have a static IP with ICS on your mom's computer. Did you setup the default gateway and preferred DNS server correctly?

ummmmmm no? haha, im still learning about all this networking crap, we just barely started covering this kinda stuff in my class...so i doubt its set up right, what should i do? guide me!

ok the basic connection and everything works fine with the static IP...but im not sure what to do with the settings in my browser, IE for example...i went to LAN settings under the connections tab of IE options, i set it to auto...didnt work, i tried use automatic configuration script and entered the IP of the ICS host, and then i tried using a proxy server with the same IP, although i didnt know the port and none of those worked....what should i do?