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Old 11-03-2007, 01:37 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by jwakamud
it should be noted that around the great depression we raised tariffs which resulted in making the great depression much much worse than it had to be. more than that, it caused a global depression which countries like China are only in the beginnings of coming out of -- how much worse would it be if we became truly isolationist?

i dont care how we got to iraq, because its a moot point. how we got there will serve only to sidetrack us from the real issue. WE destroyed the government, its our responsibility to make sure the government that replaces it has the ability to defend itself. we cant do that simply by throwing money at them, we have to help secure their lands for them. and thats not easy or fast. we need to stay there until its done, or it will be our fault when there are worse atrocities than were there before because we pulled out.

what i hate about americans: i hate how little we value the elderly. i hate how little we value our children (look at our mortality rate among infants). i hate how little we value education.

these are not problems with america -- they are problems with AMERICANS. i hate our attitudes and behaviors. i hate how our interest in the bottom line has degraded our ability to provide true altruism. i hate how little we value educators in our society.

what do i want changed? i want our attitudes changed. tall order, but it can be done. children are our future, right?
Good points. And I probably shouldn't have included my biased opinion as to how we got into Iraq, so that can just be ignored (since it'* clearly up for debate, and I doubt any one of us can agree on a single correct answer).
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Wow, I agree with a lot more in the previous posts than I thought I would. I agree 1000% (yes, one thousand percent ) that throwing money at ANY problem doesn't solve anything. I also believe it is our responsiblity to fix what we broke in Iraq. I think that most people do care about kids and the elderly, but those in power just want to throw money at the problem, and don't give a damn what happens as long as they keep getting elected.

I know it'* easier said than done, but ifI people are so disenchanted by the government, why do the same people keep getting elected? I dunno. Whatever.
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