DAMN IT. This is really hard to get across in text but I could not be more pissed off. It is NOT POSSIBLE.

As most of you know I have put alot of time and money into my red 89. It running quality is probably in the top 10% of any 1989 vehicle. The car has never been serviced by a shop under my ownership. It has all been done and paid for by me. Now here is the issue. My mother'* name is on the title and registration because I would then have lower insurance. Trusting my own mother is probably the worst damn thing I've ever done. She is a TOTALLY SELFISH and INCONSIDERATE person. After I have put THOUSANDS into the 89 for parts and THOUSANDS of dollars of labor, not to mention the fact that I bought it. Now SHE is telling me that SHE owns the car and when it sells that SHE is keeping the money and I'm not getting a DIME.

Thats just ONE part of me being pissed. Next part.

She bought the 93 for me on a loan basis to get around interest rates and such, so I said cool. Once again, her name on the registration and title for insurance reasons. Since I've owned the car, tomorrow will be one month, I have been doing ALL the labor on the car. She has been paying for the parts because I am moving to florida and not taking the car with me. Can't afford to pay it off completely right now. Regardless of that, I consider it mine as ANYONE would consider their car theirs when they get a loan on it, but OHHH no, here we go again. Now I have finally been able to come up with enough money to go to the IL meet on Friday and OHHH, boy, here comes the selfish mother. NOOO, she can't POSSIBLY spare a few days of not having a car (no, she doesn't work) for me to go to a meet that I'll most likely, never be able to attend again. No...can't possibly. So now she said NO I can't take it, and IF I TRY, SHE'LL REPORT GRAND THEFT AUTO.

I...I...am at a loss for words. Everyone I know that knows the situation first hand, thinks it is horrible. I have never in my life met such a goddamn inconsiderate, selfish, HORRIBLE person. She has NO respect for anyone but herself.

She justifies this by saying that she raised me and paid for everything as a kid, and am I nuts or something to think that she is TRADING my hard work and money into a material possession to pay back her time and money towards raising me? I mean COME ON. Thats not only unfair, but isn't even logical! And she says, "well I put gas in the car when I use it." I'm like "Uhh, you wouldn't exactly HAVE a car if it wasn't for me, you'd have nothing to put gas INTO"

She doesn't work, she just sits here and is either writing, watching TV, reading or sleeping. And she won't let me work because ooh, then she wouldn't have a car! But then complains that I don't work, like I'm supposed to support HER.

This is all compounded by the fact that she is freaking out about me leaving because it really tells her, that GEE, without me, she actually has to *gasp* WORK. And because I'm leaving is making my life a LIVING HELL.

Thank GOD I'm leaving here soon.

this is the most fucked up thing ive ever seen on a chat board ever. sorry your mom is such a dispecable person.

Cliffnotes?

mom= selfish.

thats messed up. maybe she'll come to her senses. i dont know how she could do that to her own son (or anybody for that matter), but especially you.

maybe deep down she does this bc she wants you there. some women get a great fear of their "babies" leaving home.

yeah...but shes always been bad, its just been magnified a bit.

shes an ok person until it comes down to her not getting something her way..and her way is always her benefit...no matter who else suffers, unless shes happy. It happened in her last marriage, she was married to a millionaire for 10 years and her family said shes never been the same since. I was born 4 years after she was divorced from that marriage. My father got the hell away from her because she drove him out of his mind. Exactly what she does to me.

Yeah things sound bad but I would give anything to have my mom back.

just out of curiousity...how does your mother pay rent and living expenses and such? or is that what you were saying comes out of your pocket?

i hope i dont sound like a bad person, but you might just need to do the same as your father if she is really being that big of a bitch.

She pays the rent with her social security income. As well as her own cell phone the electric (only $35/mo) and the tv (which I never watch). I pay for my cell phone and the cable internet.

I AM leaving! Thats most the reason!

Not only that, but I am leaving her with my desktop computer for FREE, BOTH of my TVs (27" and 36"), MY king size bed FREE, and she is selling and keeping the money for HER queen bed and an extra full size laying around. I mean...come on. I feel like I'm being cheated here.

now that I got a chance to read this whole thing.....My 2 cents

You are better off moving out right now. I moved out shortly after I turned 17. I had $500, enough to pay a month of rent and get some groceries....I found a dirty studio appartment in the bad part of town and landed a minimum wage job to pay the bills. I was eating rice, beans, and potatos, top ramon, oatmeal for the most part but made it by ok.

The first few months are rough but after you figure it out it is ok from there.

Dont use the "but I can get a job" excuse. Anyone can get a job, you just have to be willing to work.

Worse case scenario you can always go to Iraq like a lot of my friends. Plus, when you get back it looks darn good on a resume.

I have friends that stayed with their parent(*) past the age of 18 and they are a big leap behind on the maturity level. I still know one or two people I went to high school with (class of 03) that are living in their parents basements, unemployed playing video games.

My relationship with my parents was a little sketchy for a while but after we seperated we get along much better than before.

Well, it'* not right for any of us to pass judgement on either your mother or you. We just aren't intimate with the situation. Having said that, from the limited data it sounds like you need to cut the umbilical and set yourself free. Sounds like that'* your plan.

How are you getting to FL? Plane, bus, walk? I assume you're not taking any of the cars? Quite possibly your best bet is to just walk away. Leave anything that you can't take with you, and go. Chalk it up as a loss, gift to your mom, whatever, but let it go. Yep, that sucks, but it'* just stuff. Cars, TVs, computers, are all just possessions and can be replaced.

I know you're not feeling much like doing this right now, but when you leave I would admonish you to try to leave on good terms with your mom. Even if she won't accept it, do your best to leave without any animosity on your end. This will do wonders for your peace of mind in the future. Trust me.

On a postive note, from your perspective, if the cars are not in your name you can walk away and cease payments without incurring a negative credit rating - that'* all in your mom'* lap. Toss your mom the keys and the payment book, and kiss her goodbye