Big advantages with a Series 2 over Series 1?
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Big advantages with a Series 2 over Series 1?
Ive asked a few questions about the differant series of the 3800 motor.
All the cars ive had have had a series I 3800 or a non series 3800. will i notice a differance when i buy a newer Bonneville with a series II? more power, more reliable (if thats even possible)? what about a series III (in a Grand Prix) over a series II? noticably more power? reliability?
I hear people dont like the Series III due to the drive by wire throttle.....
All the cars ive had have had a series I 3800 or a non series 3800. will i notice a differance when i buy a newer Bonneville with a series II? more power, more reliable (if thats even possible)? what about a series III (in a Grand Prix) over a series II? noticably more power? reliability?
I hear people dont like the Series III due to the drive by wire throttle.....
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You'll be very happy with a S2. Easy to mod, more power. The S3 has about 20 more horsepower than the S2 due to the head and */C design but the same amount of torque
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The S3 would be the best but you can't get it in a bonne and the advantages are minimal. To use a S3 in a bonne you would replace the ETC (drive-by-wire) tb with a cabled one from a S2.
Main differences between S2 and S3:
Returnless fuel system on S3 vs return on S2
ETC on S3 vs cabled on S2
Rumored differences (haven't seen any cold hard facts on these yet)
Stronger connecting rods on S3 (for both N/A and */C)
Larger valves on S3
Intake made a little better
The S3 */C also came with the Gen5 blower compared to the S2'* Gen3
Main differences between S2 and S3:
Returnless fuel system on S3 vs return on S2
ETC on S3 vs cabled on S2
Rumored differences (haven't seen any cold hard facts on these yet)
Stronger connecting rods on S3 (for both N/A and */C)
Larger valves on S3
Intake made a little better
The S3 */C also came with the Gen5 blower compared to the S2'* Gen3
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The SIII (L26/32) has powdered metal connecting rods which are stronger.
They also do have an almost insignificantly larger intake valve to help with seating. This has been verified by measuring. (I really don't feel like digging it up right now)
They also do have an almost insignificantly larger intake valve to help with seating. This has been verified by measuring. (I really don't feel like digging it up right now)
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L32 rods are hot forged not powedered
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http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=3800+...bac56246434a91
You're wrong and right at the same time.
But they are indeed powdered.
Edit-
The S3 intake valves are 1.830" vs 1.800" in diameter.
You're wrong and right at the same time.
But they are indeed powdered.
Edit-
The S3 intake valves are 1.830" vs 1.800" in diameter.
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http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=3800+...bac56246434a91
You're wrong and right at the same time.
But they are indeed powdered.
Edit-
The S3 intake valves are 1.830" vs 1.800" in diameter.
You're wrong and right at the same time.
But they are indeed powdered.
Edit-
The S3 intake valves are 1.830" vs 1.800" in diameter.
Got links for the valve sizes? I'm sure others would like the proof.