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My 93 SSE Series 2 L67 Motor swap

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Old 11-07-2007, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by radomirthegreat


Also, for the heck of it, can I ask for more pics of the swap? Are all the mounts OE-style, or was there some weird stuff involved? And I don't think you explained what you did to fit the 97'* extras into the dash. is it too strange, or was there just some minor extra wiring. I'd love to know, if there'* still picture-taking time.
I don't have more pictures, I should have taken more, but didn't. All the mounts are factory, I installed the whole cradle from the 97 in my 93, engine, tranny, suspension, etc... It all bolted up, because the suspension is the same from 92-99. Nothing weird involved, direct swap, the wiring was the hardest. You basically need everything from the 97 engine compartment.

The 93 and 97 dash are almost exactly the same, only structural difference is the radio mounts, as the 93 radio is a little different. I swapped the dash harness as the 97 has a bose amp in it that I wanted to retain, and the heads up display is a tad bit different, plus I needed to swap a different bracket in it so the rear mounting pin of the 97 radio had a place to go. I would have preferred to use the dark grey 97 dash but it was damaged, if I find one though I am going to swap it, as I like the dark grey better.

There actually is nothing really special to the swap, I am basically doing a body swap, gutted everything from he 93 and installed it from the 97. Under the car and hood it will look every bit like a 97, the interior will to other than the color is a little wrong. And if I find a good front clip I am going to swap the body panels too.

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Mike..the truck is also an easy swap. Or did you already do that?
Old 11-08-2007, 09:16 AM
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had to work on someones honda last night, so not much progress, I did get a new connector put on for the abs unit though, geeze that was fun, spent about a hour, cutting and soldering it on and then shrink wrapping it all. Just need to do the left front headlight harness and I can install the airbox and all.

My cooling system is done, put on new heater lines last night too and checked everything. I just need to flush it a dozen times to get all the old dex out of the motor and I am going to put green in it afterwards. Plan to have that done this saturday.

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What was left of my old abs connector
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New connector I grabbed at salvage yard.
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all done, just need to wrap it to make it look factory.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:17 PM
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That'* awesome! Sorry you had to do all that wiring, but I think it'* great how potentially stock it looks! I love clean wiring, and I am unnaturally happy now that you're doing such detailed work. Good of you to use green coolant, and good luck with the flush.
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Did another 8 hours of work on the bonne today. It runs and drives now, not yet road worthy but it can move under its own power and has no mechanical issues, other than needing a alignment bad.

Under the hood is almost done, still have to bolt on the cooling fans and vacuum canister under the battery. The ABS unit still needs to be swapped too but not too worried about that until the car is basically done.

I got the intake system done, and the new left headlight harness soldered in, but have yet to get the headlights back in the car. The cooling system is flushed and new green coolant is in the car now.

I swapped the trunk lids so I have the 97 style but it does not latch yet, as I need to adjust it plus for some reason the lock is stuck and won't let the key open it.

I also have the interior partial assembled now and is looking good.

I found a few things I didn't expect today, that have to be delt with among the rest of the work.

Fuel Gauge does not work, maybe got the wiring backwards or something, or won' tthe 93 sender work with the 97 dash?

I used the 97 seats and the 93 seatbelt buckles do not fit, so have to change the belts too.

I installed new airbags too, but still getting a airbag light, so must have to get a new module? Are they only good for one use liek the bags?

ABS/Traction control lights are on, because I do not have the ABS unit installed, probally just pull the bulbs in the dash for the time being so its not annoying.

Performance suspension has a error, both buttons lit up, probably because I have yet to install the 97 rear struts.

Found some of the wiring in the doors is also different, and I need to swap some of the innards.


My advice to other people, this is a difficult and time consuming project I am doing and would suggest no one else try it unless you have a lot of time and paitnece on your hands.

Here'* some pics from today.

Video of the car running while I was flushing the cooling system.



starting to look like a series 2 car under the hood.
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Bunch of dash lights on, the little infor panel is all lit up too, since I didn't have any of the lights hooked up yet.
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New trunk and lights
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Partial installed interior
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Mess in the back of the car
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Looks like a 96-99 in the picture, huh?
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Keep the pics coming, I'm loving it!
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What you call your partially finished interior is more complete than mine. This is great!

While your doors are apart, can I ask you the favor of taking pictures of the drivers' side innards? I need a refresher course on where the nuts and bolts go, as well as how to mount the bar that retains the window as it slides down. This would be ever so awesome of you.

Your car will be one of the coolest Bonnevilles on the forum. I see you've already started letting out some steam (warning to prospective swappers), but please keep in mind we're all eagerly waiting for this to be finished and are behind you 5000% of the way. It'* now the home stretch!
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Check the wiring through the pcm for the fuel gauge. (yes..it goes through in 97)

Airbags need to be reset with a Tech II

Struts..yep.. need all 4 on and functional before it'* happy.

Great progress, glad to see it coming along so quickly.
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Made some more progress tonight. Cooling fans are in and working, tranny lines are finished. Got all the lighting sorted out and it all works and finally got all the bulb malfunction lights to go out. Keyless entry works good now, needed a little tinkering.

The 97 door panels are installed, other than a couple different connectors, the doors were almost the same.

All the bose stereo equipment is installed and sounds awesome.

Figured out my fuel gauge problem, I have service manuals for both cars and after a bit of digging found the senders are different, guess I got to pull the tank and swap the guts.

I borrowed our OTC Genisys scanner from work and used it to turn off the airbag light and reset the module. I also managed to get the abs lights to go out with the scanner, even though the unit is not installed.

The car is now driveable and has no major issues. May be a few weeks until I wrap it up because I still need to get the rear struts off the old car and on the new one, and then swap fuel senders.

Most of my interior is done, I decided to change to all dark grey and am going to do the headliner and trim this weekend.

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Hey, I just realized something! We both have 92-95 cars with 96-99 door panels! Mine are from a dark oak interior colored 98 SSE. I like those door panels a lot more than the ones from the 92-99. They're better for speakers, and there'* no carpeting in the back to get dirty.

It seems like you've made a whole lot of progress. This should be a great sleeper among the 96-99 SSEi dragsters


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