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asonofabeach69 Dec 13, 2006 04:12 PM

Both those cars are very nice, I especially like the interior. This whole topic is turning out alot different then i thought it would :o
I figured the SSEI and GTP would be running neck and neck w/ the Riv a distant third. L67 rivs have the 4t65e HD right? Also what year SSEis have a 65E and what years have a 60E?

Slimpee Dec 13, 2006 04:22 PM

which tranny of those three is the best?

OLDsman105 Dec 13, 2006 05:33 PM

Either 4T60E-HD and 4T65E-HD are good transmissions. The 4T60 is vaccum controlled the 4T65 is PCM controlled. Both work well but Intense can not burn a PCM for the 4T60 (DHP can) other than that all other performance options are available for both.

Slimpee Dec 13, 2006 05:44 PM

Do you know what tranny my aurora has (maybe something w/ an "80 in it)? And is it any good?

Buickman104 Dec 13, 2006 06:33 PM

I know Oldsman had a fun fun experience with an Aurora's transmition when he got one started driving off the lot and about 3 miles later the tranny started slipping! :lol:
I heard that the torque management on the Auroras take away some of the fun away from the vehicle.

The tranny is the 4T80E

asonofabeach69 Dec 13, 2006 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by OLDsman105
Either 4T60E-HD and 4T65E-HD are good transmissions. The 4T60 is vaccum controlled the 4T65 is PCM controlled. Both work well but Intense can not burn a PCM for the 4T60 (DHP can) other than that all other performance options are available for both.

This is good information to know, but which cars have which tranny?
I know everything 98 and newer has a 4t65 but how about before that (96-97 years)
Im assuming the 97 rivs have a 4t65 because its on intense's list for PCMs.

Hans Dec 13, 2006 09:46 PM

If you are younger expect to pay $300 more a year for insurance on a riv vs a GTP or an SSEi, many insurance companies go off the number of doors.


They consider the Riviera a "coupe" not a 2 door sedan.





I personally like the features of the SSEis, like the HUD and lumbar seats, however I'd settle for a Riv if it was super cheap, they can be had for $4000 for a NICE riv, vs $6000+ for a nice SSEi of equal miles and condition.

dillcc Dec 13, 2006 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by asonofabeach69

Originally Posted by OLDsman105
Either 4T60E-HD and 4T65E-HD are good transmissions. The 4T60 is vaccum controlled the 4T65 is PCM controlled. Both work well but Intense can not burn a PCM for the 4T60 (DHP can) other than that all other performance options are available for both.

This is good information to know, but which cars have which tranny?
I know everything 98 and newer has a 4t65 but how about before that (96-97 years)
Im assuming the 97 rivs have a 4t65 because its on intense's list for PCMs.

For '97 Vin K Bonnevilles the trans is the 4t60-e, however Intense still offers a PCM :D
'97 SSEi's have the 4t65E-HD

Custom88 Dec 13, 2006 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by Hans
If you are younger expect to pay $300 more a year for insurance on a riv vs a GTP or an SSEi, most insurance companies go off the number of doors.


They consider the regal a "coupe" not a 2 door sedan.


I personally like the features of the SSEis, like the HUD and lumbar seats, however I'd settle for a Riv if it was super cheap, they can be had for $4000 for a NICE riv, vs $6000+ for a nice SSEi of equal miles and condition.

This isn't entirely true. My insurance company rated the Riviera as a "low risk" vehicle. They didn't really mention anything about it being a 2-door car.

GoldenBullet Dec 13, 2006 11:29 PM

i say go with the bonnie (not trying to be bias) its the biggest sleeper and has some nice luxury to it, IMO

on a side note, did any 97-99 rivieras come naturally aspirated or were they all supercharged?


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