k this is getting rediculous, also anybody saying the EVO VIII sucks should really check their facts. I have an article at home where one of the writers took out the new EVO and in the quarter mile, spanked a newer vette and if you don't believe me pick up this months Sport Compact Car with the Japanese Super cars on the front talking about Japanese street racing. Plus I am getting pretty tired of this argument that rice is shit, the only reason there isn't a 500 hp stock Japanese car is because manfacturers have a gentlemen's agreement to not go over 275 horsepower. Subaru was the first company to break this pact. Don't get me wrong I love my bonne but I can appreciate foreign cars and their power.