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STAGED 11-25-2004 02:53 PM

Bonneville beyond 2006?
 
Rumor of a Buick Lucerne, 5.3L V8, and all new 6-speed automatic.
Buick LaCrosse arriving with 3.8L OHV and 3.6L DOHC engines.
Grand Prix GXP with 5.3L V8, and 4-speed auto. coming

Where does that leave the Bonneville in the coming years?
Any rumors?

A lower cost version of the RWD Cadillac STS with a 3900 V6, 5.3L OHV V8, and 6.0L LS2 would be nice to knock heads with the 300C.

Drifter420 11-25-2004 03:03 PM

thats providing the gas price don't go the way they do and force car comp. to make it different like they did early 90's where they were gutless fuel econo POS :?

Ryan 11-25-2004 03:30 PM

Re: Bonneville beyond 2006?
 

Originally Posted by STAGED
Rumor of a Buick Lucerne, Buick LaCrosse arriving

The funny thing is that around here, Lucerne is a Milk company. And Lacross is Canada's national sport...

lol

LakevilleSSEi 11-25-2004 03:39 PM

Hmmm...May just have to drive the 95 into the ground and revive her for the rest of my life...I wonder if that's possible? To Drive one vehicle forever and never let it die? Just keep fixing what breaks...That would be a true test of dependability??

Ol' Timer 11-25-2004 07:27 PM

Re: Bonneville beyond 2006?
 

Originally Posted by STAGED
Any rumors?

.

One rumor is that they would combine the Grand Prix with the Bonneville and call it the G8. I hope they do not go this route with the Alpha-Numeric car names. Anyone remember some of the past A-N names? The T-1000, J-2000, and , of course, the memorable 6000. Pa-leeze Mr. Pontiac(aka. Lutz) don't go there again!

Merlin 91/97 11-25-2004 10:12 PM

Well they have to do something really really special for 2007..... it's Bonnie's 50th after all.

1993 SLE 11-25-2004 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by Merlin 91/97
Well they have to do something really really special for 2007..... it's Bonnie's 50th after all.

*prays to GM*

supercharged 4.6 GXP 50th anniversary

dbeast420 11-25-2004 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by 1993 SLE

Originally Posted by Merlin 91/97
Well they have to do something really really special for 2007..... it's Bonnie's 50th after all.

*prays to GM*

supercharged 4.6 GXP 50th anniversary

I would be willing to SELL body parts(mine or someone else's) for a S/C 4.6 50th ann!!!!!!!!!!!!

fantastic88 11-25-2004 11:42 PM

I worry about GM's future. :cry: They are some of the best cars out there. However, people don't like the high prices and lack of radical desighns. They might do something special for 07' but after that the Bonny is most likely history. :x

94bonnyV 11-25-2004 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by dbeast420

Originally Posted by 1993 SLE

Originally Posted by Merlin 91/97
Well they have to do something really really special for 2007..... it's Bonnie's 50th after all.

*prays to GM*

supercharged 4.6 GXP 50th anniversary

I would be willing to SELL body parts(mine or someone else's) for a S/C 4.6 50th ann!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am currently auctioning my soul to the highest bidder for one of those

dbeast420 11-26-2004 10:34 AM

Not willing to sell soul.........I already been married 1 time before so,I've already met the DEVIL!!!!!

maybe a spare kidney!!!!!!!!

beckstyle 11-26-2004 10:36 AM

RWD V8 Bonneville, now that would be a treat. :D

MOS95B 11-26-2004 10:39 AM

Re: Bonneville beyond 2006?
 

Originally Posted by Ol' Timer

Originally Posted by STAGED
Any rumors?

.

One rumor is that they would combine the Grand Prix with the Bonneville and call it the G8. I hope they do not go this route with the Alpha-Numeric car names. Anyone remember some of the past A-N names? The T-1000, J-2000, and , of course, the memorable 6000. Pa-leeze Mr. Pontiac(aka. Lutz) don't go there again!

I had a J2000 hatchback in the late 80's. Don't know if it was the car's fault, or the previous owner, but what a POS that thing was!!!

opensourceguy 11-26-2004 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by beckstyle
RWD V8 Bonneville, now that would be a treat. :D

Would never happen. Remember, we only have subframes. Keep praying for the Supercharged 4.6L ;)


-justin

repinS 11-26-2004 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by opensourceguy
Would never happen. Remember, we only have subframes. Keep praying for the Supercharged 4.6L ;)


-justin

Maybe for the next generation. The Monte Carlo and Impala are slated to return to RWD.

Mark Fahey 11-26-2004 07:48 PM

According to the Chicago Tribune earlier this week, things don't look good for the Bonneville as we know it. With weak sales, you can't blame GM but it appears unlikely that it will continue as a 4 door sedan.
I thought that the GXP would tempt me so I test drove one. It was a nice, smooth car but at only 24mpg and only marginally better performance than my SSEi, thanks but no thanks.

Freddi 11-26-2004 10:30 PM

Re: Bonneville beyond 2006?
 

Originally Posted by Ol' Timer

Originally Posted by STAGED
Any rumors?

.

One rumor is that they would combine the Grand Prix with the Bonneville and call it the G8. I hope they do not go this route with the Alpha-Numeric car names. Anyone remember some of the past A-N names? The T-1000, J-2000, and , of course, the memorable 6000. Pa-leeze Mr. Pontiac(aka. Lutz) don't go there again!

Don't know if they will combine into one model, but doubt they would call it a G8.

The current G6 is for the "6th generation" of a body. (Not just cosmetic changes) I don't think GM will be doing two major generation changes in the next year. (The 2005's are already out)

Lowrider0308 11-26-2004 10:40 PM

my papers wheels section(cars section) is reporting in today's paper that pontiac is considering dropping the bonneville after 2006, for a crossover SUV. that would suck, 1 year from the 50th Annv. If pontiac does drop it, there will be one angry website breathing down their neck!!!! :evil: :twisted:

glorkar 11-27-2004 12:08 AM

Re: Bonneville beyond 2006?
 
Not sure, but I found this on GMinsidenews.com:

Pontiac-
Aztek- The Aztek will finally make it’s exit after the 2005 model year.
Bonneville- Bonneville will be cancelled after 2005.
G4/G5- It is rumored that Pontiac will get a mid-sized Kappa sedan based off the Holden Torana TT36 show car. It would likely have a high performance V6 powertrain and be slightly smaller than a BMW 3 series. If this car is produced, don't expect to see it before 2007.
G6- Coupe and hard-top versions (in that order) of the G6 will arrive in late 2005 as 2006 models. In 2006 a G6 GTP will be added powered by a 240 HP version of the new 3.9L OHV engine. A G6 GXP powered by a 270hp+ version of the 3.9L will also come into play after 2007.
G8- Large RWD Sedan based of Zeta Platform with debut around 2007/08. Will be powered by both a 3.9L V6, and 5.3/6.0L V8's. Replacement for the Bonneville, and possibly the Grand Prix
Grand Prix- The Grand Prix will receive a GXP version in late MY 2005 as a 2006 model. It will be powered by a 280-300 HP 5.3L LS4 powertrain. unfortunately, the 4 speed automatic transmission will remain until 2007 (at the earliest) when it is replaced by a 6 speed automatic. Also, the current 3800 engine series will be discontinued in 2006/07, replaced by the 240 hp 3.9L V6. In 2008, the Grand Prix will either be replaced by the G8 sedan, or carry on along side it.
Solstice- The Solstice is set to arrive in late 2005, as a 2006 model. Starting in 2007 Pontiac will offer a GT version of roadster. The GT will have a turbocharged version of the 2.0L Ecotec engine, and a revised front fascia.
Torrent- Pontiac will introduce it’s own Theta-based SUV in 2006. It is said to share the body panels with the Equinox, and have the 3.5L, followed by the 3.9L in 2007.

glorkar 11-27-2004 12:19 AM

Also, check this thread out from the pontiac board there: http://forums.gminsidenews.com/showthread.php?t=8914

Lowrider0308 11-27-2004 12:32 AM

the article written in that first post was in my local newspaper.

Freddi 11-27-2004 02:34 AM

Well, I stand corrected on the potential of a G8, the sources definately point that way.

Still doesn't make sense to me, especially after the hyping of the fact that the G6 stands for the 6th Generation of the Grand AM chassis.

Go with scheme....change the scheme. :roll:

macho_mike21 11-27-2004 03:17 PM

hte bonneville as it is now is not selling well. Look at the GXP, it stacked up almost worse than Bills 12 year old SSEi. If it takes a new name to get GM to change some things and update the Bonnie than so be it.

GFlem 11-27-2004 05:13 PM

Lots of good ideas in that thread though... esp. the RWD/Northstar option, and the 3800 as a smaller engine choice.

It's about time that Pontiac's fullsize sedan got a fullsize engine.

Ol' Timer 11-27-2004 05:33 PM

Pontiac must like the letter "G" a lot. Back in the early 80's, they temporarily dropped the Full Size Bonneville and reincarnated it as the smaller Lemans. They called it the Bonneville Model G. It sort of makes you wonder who(or what) was running things back at Pontiac Central.
GM ought to take a lesson from Chrysler. They came out with a (more then less) Full Sized Car (except for the trunk) with dynamic styling, dropped in a Hemi Engine and called it the Chrysler 300 C. Deservedly so.
Now tell me. If Pontica redesigned its Full Sized Car wtih a V-8, what would you call it? Bonneville? Or, would you rather have a G8?

STAGED 11-27-2004 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by glorkar
Also, check this thread out from the pontiac board there: http://forums.gminsidenews.com/showthread.php?t=8914

Great link. Yeah we don't need a $30,000 boring + competent sedan. You can have a boring + competent sedan in a weekend ad special Hyundai XG350. At $30,000 if it's semi-boring one wants, one can get Nissan Murano or Honda Pilot (both take 60 mph in 7.5 seconds, btw) and have plenty of cargo space to space.

Sedans these days have to have something edgy to justify their existence in this day of perfectly good cross-overs. A 3.9L 240hp Bonneville loaded to the hilt with very few option combos to pose as a luxury ride priced about the same as lesser equipped crossovers. A 5.3L 290 hp / 6-speed auto version starting with less equipment but same price as 240hp version; but fully equipped versions costing more than the V6 version. And a top-dog 6.0L 400hp with appearance package just like the 20" rimmed 300 SRT-8.

Affordable V8 cars is what America still does best, so why aren't they doing more of such.

beckstyle 11-27-2004 08:01 PM

OMG, they killed the bonneville! Those bastards!

Jstpsntym 11-27-2004 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by glorkar
Also, check this thread out from the pontiac board there: http://forums.gminsidenews.com/showthread.php?t=8914

I posted this on another thread...

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...674&highlight=

In a different context, but it is worth a read to everyone.

Jay


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