AH, F@#$!!!
 

Got a call from the shop, turns out my low oil pressure problem is MAJOR problem!!
Something is hurt bad internally, and they need to replace THE ENTIRE MOTOR :shock: :shock: :shock:
So they call the warranty company, and they have NOTHING ON FILE :shock: :shock: :shock:
Turns out when the dealer sold me the warranty, they missed checking a little box that says HIGH MILEAGE VEHICLE COVERAGE :? :? :?
So now I have NO WARRANTY!!! :ripped: :ripped: :ripped:
Oh, don't worry, the dealer's GONNA eat the cost of this little F@#$-UP!!! :buttkick:
If he tries to dick ME again, he's gonna find out what f@#$ing with a Dalton gets him! :beating:
I'll go straight to the Attorney-General's Office!! On top of that I'll call the local TV station's consumer protection hotline, see how he like a little free publicity!! :scrambled: :scrambled: :scrambled:
Car-dealers who screw people should be careful who they screw, some people FIGHT BACK!!!http://www.mos95b.com/Smileys/Guntoting.gif
They don't say I'm evil for no reason. :evilydevil: :evilydevil: :evilydevil:

Ouch sorry to hear about your problem! And I agree some dealerships really get adventerous when it comes to making money!

Ville, U cant' get the engine rebuilt? U actually need a brand new one?

This is coming from GMGoodwrench, the F'in' Gospel!! :biggrinangel:

Internal problem, non-diagnose-able w/out a complete tear-down. :?

Tear-down and repair, probably cost as much or more than a new motor, so I'll go with the shop on this one and get a new motor. Besides, even with a rebuild, no guarantee they got everything, and this way I'll have a fresh motor to start with when I go to do mods! :D :D

Still, massive F@#$in' hassle, and I'm driving my Dad's F@#$in' gas-hog mule of a '97 Chevy for a while DELIVERING PIZZAS!!! There go my tips for a while :cry:

Oh BTW, it looks like the dealer isn't going to put up much of a fight about paying for repairs, we'll see what happens.

Ville, you have my thoughts pacing, how much for a brand new 3800? I always thought they were around $3,500 or so? supercharged I imagine are a little more? I know an engine re-build should be about the same as a transmission re-build.

What does it matter if the dealership pays for it? I'd say get a new motor and stick it to them. Sorry to hear about the problem Brian (I got that right, right?). Hope they treat you right....What dealership is this?

Trunk Car Co. on Indianola near Cooke, in Columbus :x

The place doing the work is Dennis Pontiac/GMGoodwrench :)

Trunk wants a second opinion, as if a Pontiac dealer isn't going to know how to deal with an L67 :?

Todd, you ever hear of Hughes Automotive, on E. Main? that's where Trunk wants me to take it for said "second opinion" :?: :?:

Dennis pissed me off, they always try to gouge me on things. Lately i've been going to Jack Maxton GM Dealership on 161 out past 71. They do pretty good work and only caught them once trying to charge me for uneeded items (out like 10 times, i think they learned). There shop is open until midnight m-f also so they get more work in and get your car back faster.

If Hughes comes back with a different answer than Dennis I guess I'll take it up to Maxton then.

I hope Trunk doesn't get funny :x , I love this car and I want her healthy again ASAP. :?

BTW, yeah you got my name right, Todd, look at the first line of my sig :wink:

Err uhh...whats a sig? ;) (Your assuming I can read)

sig=signature, the area at the bottom of the post, down there
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Re: AH, F@#$!!!
 

sorry to hear about the motor, just curious, what was the mileage on the car when you bought the warranty?

Approx 120,800miles, just broken in for a 3800 S1

Good Grief

Sounds like you need an attorney before a tech.

You might've spun a bearing. Lotsa things at this point. A new motor wouldn't be hard to do. Any 94/95 L67 from any car will bolt right in.

Don't think it's a bearing, there's no accompanying noise. And if I end up replacing the motor, it's going to be a GM-remanufactured motor, not a motor out of someone else's car or a re-man from some parts company I've never heard of. And, believe me, the work WILL be done at a GM dealer shop, NOT a local small-time shop.

Sorry to hear about that; totally blows. Make sure you dont pay a dime, especially if you have a GM authorized dealer fix it. What about second opinions from other mechanics?

series II L67 is in your future!!

:shock: Dude, hate to hear that. I went thru the engine replacement thingy. I got a Gm Goodwrench motor and had them install it, has a 3 year /36000 mile warrenty, and it runs like a champ! I think you'll be very pleased!

umm... don't think so. I'd have to replace EVERYTHING, all accessories, PCM, etc...

Looking at prolly $6-7000 for that.
I'll be content with a new S1

I've been thinking all night, how much more would it cost to put a Series2 in this car?
I know the PCM is different, would I have to change harnesses, hoses, accessories, etc?

probably not that much extra.

The cost of changing everything else will make it spendy.

From Columbus Racing forums they say motor, tranny, harness, PCM, BCM, etc, etc...

If you get a L36, you could get away without a new tranny, I think. But what would the point be? What's a BCM? Never heard of it.

Well the Series 1 SC has pracitcally nil aftermarket support, and I would like to think about some gradual power increases, which is hard when you have to do alot of custom crap

BCM=Body Control Module, I have no actual idea what this does or if I even have one.

I'm starting to think about making the dealer take the car back. For what I paid for the car+what he's gonna have to shell out for a re-manufactured engine, I could just take the Series 2 SC Riviera he's got on the lot off his hands...
...being DAMN SURE he files all the right paperwork this time! :x
I would also, of course, take it to a Goodwrench within 1 hour of buying it and have it THOROUGHLY checked.
At this point I really don't give a sh*t what he does with the car if I make him take it back.
I learned my lesson, someone else can learn their's.
One of my co-workers asked me if I was alright earlier, said I had been grinding my teeth loud enough to hear over the pizza oven.
I can't think straight, I'm so f*cking pissed, if this drags out any longer, I might start throwing rocks through their f*cking windows...

I should mention, someone on a forum to remain un-named said something about the shop maybe putting a junkyard motor in to replace the current one.

NO F*CKING WAY IS A JUNKYARD MOTOR GOING ANYWHERE NEAR MY ENGINE BAY!!!
I'm not going to settle for anything less than a GM re-manufactured engine.
I'm not getting a motor put in when I don't have any way of knowing how many miles it has on it, what might have been wrong with it when the car it was in was wrecked, causing who knows what other trauma to the enginge that would be a problem in the future.
I really hope that the guy who mentioned this was joking. If not, he should get his ganglia tied off, they aren't helping him any, after all.

WHOA!! Slow down there hoss!! :lol: You got the proof you paid for the warranty, so they're gonna hafta fork over a new engine, whether it's in this car or another one. I know you're stressed, but you just gotta try and maintain your cool til you get a real answer, nit just us supposing and guessing.

And I agree, just so's ya know. A warranty wouldn't buy me a junkyard motor either....

It isn't just the fact that I need a new motor, it's that every time I think how they tried to scam me, I get even more pissed off. I mean, this is not just point-A-point-B transpo here, I rely on this car to make my living! Them, messing around on the warranty has cost me three day's tips in the gas I'm having to put in my Dad's truck while I'm driving it.
With the Bonneville I was staying ahead of gas cost by about ten bucks a night, but with the truck, I'm putting more in than I'm making on tips, even though I can fill it with 87.
For perspective, this is probably gonna set me back a month on moving in to my own place again, and I'm going nuts having to share a house with people(my parents) who get up at 5am and 8am respectively and go to bed at 10:00.
My biological clock won't let me get up before 11am or go to sleep before 2 in the morning when I work late shifts like I am now.
See? This is f*cking up my LIFE!

Yeah Yeah, I know I'm rantinghttp://www.mos95b.com/Smileys/rant.gif but it's better than getting arrested for kicking Trunk's A$$http://www.mos95b.com/Smileys/TwigSlap.gif

Ranting here is definitely better than getting in trouble in the real world!! Just don't give yourself an ulcer yet.....

No worries about ulcers here, I give those to OTHER people...

Besides, if that bottle of rust-remover I swallowed when I was 4 didn't get me, this sure ain't :D

Well..... that might help explain your post in the lounge.... :bluetwitch:

Isn't this about average mileage for a 10 year old car? I don't see why you even needed high mileage vehicle coverage, for a '95 this doesn't sound high at all.

I think the Riv would be a great replacement, looked at one myself before I bought the bonneville, loved the Riv, but wife said it had to have 4 doors, so went with the bonneville (no regrets).

Heck, man, the doors on a Riv are big enough you don't NEED two more...

Do you think there's a chance the oil pressure problem you had when you bought the car was not the sending unit after all, maybe the real, more serious, internal engine problem was already there?

Very well could be...
However when they replaced the sending unit, it seemed to solve the problem, oil-pressure went up to 60psi, right where it's supposed to be, so I think that the internal problem is new.

BTW heard from Hughes this morning, and Trunk's goona try to F*ck me. They wouldn't pay for the second opinion they asked for, so they aren't gonna get one.
Now they have two choices; they can pay for the repairs that Dennis Pontiac recommended(new motor), or they can take the car back, refund my money and compensate me for the money I have put into the car($250 for brake upgrade, $80 for SilverStar lights, and $800 that I spent to correct the pre-existing sending unit problem)
I believe that altogether I have spent about $1500 on this car beyond the $4990 purchase price, so that makes it ~$6500 he owes me. That oughtta put me in a Series 2 Bonnie or a Riviera. I hope(for his sake) that he sees the light and pays for the motor.
If not, well, my Dad's been a bureaucrat for 27 years and we'll f*ck up Trunk's life something awful. :evilydevil: Never, EVER, F*ck with a Dalton.