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Old 01-11-2008, 11:09 PM   #11
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i have the same engine in my buick. and i had recently changed the lower intake manifold gaskets. and seeing the wear of 130k miles, i would strongly suggest replacement. but other than that, the trans is the only thing i would keep an eye on. the engine is pretty bullet proof.

1700 seems a lil high, depending on condition, of course. got any pics?



note that eng has 40,000 more miles, than mine
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How about getting more power out of it? These early SSEi'* only had something like 170hp right? Can power be had without sacrificing reliability and economy?
Its 225bhp, you're thinking of the natural aspirated version of the 3800. If its an SSEi you're after, its supercharged.
Actually, if its a '93, its the 205 hp version. 94-95 got the 225 hp L67.
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No pics yet. All I've got is his word that it'* minty. But I haven't even checked the thing out yet. It'* not a rush type of purchase though, I don't need it quite yet and he doesn't need to get rid of it quite yet, so I have time to make an informed decision.
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No pics yet. All I've got is his word that it'* minty. But I haven't even checked the thing out yet. It'* not a rush type of purchase though, I don't need it quite yet and he doesn't need to get rid of it quite yet, so I have time to make an informed decision.
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I just figured I'd throw in my opinion. According to my odometer (and the signature), my 94 SSEi has 291K miles on it! I think these cars are really durable, but I've had to do a lot of rust prevention. My tip on getting this car is checking for rust all over. See if you can get him to pull up the carpeting. It'* easiest if you take out the back seat and unlatch the carpeting from there. Just look by the rear doors for the common leak. Then, check out the front seats' metal rails for rust to see if water has been in the car. There has been water in mine. Have fun!
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How about getting more power out of it? These early SSEi'* only had something like 170hp right? Can power be had without sacrificing reliability and economy?
Its 225bhp, you're thinking of the natural aspirated version of the 3800. If its an SSEi you're after, its supercharged.
Actually, if its a '93, its the 205 hp version. 94-95 got the 225 hp L67.
I thought it was only the 92'* that has 205...eitherway, its more then 170
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...that'* 205 from the factory, as new. Given age, mileage, injector cleanliness, etc, I can see a10% decrease in power. And remember, that 205 is at the crank, not at the wheels. Figure 15% drivetrain loss. Total loss @25% = 51.25 hp decrease. This is probably an overestimated number, but it reminds us that even though the factory states 205hp, it will be nowhere near that number.

This is why I am a big fan of restoring lost horsepower, instead of modding, as the first things to do when you get any car. It could cost more, but at the same time makes the engine (and said vehicle) more reliable, and more fun to drive.
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