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willwren 10-17-2006 12:12 PM

Re-visiting Nosedrive drains
 
In response to a PM asking how it works for me:


Yup. It's really cool. It starts to dribble slowly when I open the drain, and really flows when I open the SC plug.

I've done it once since the install. Drains right out when it's pre-warmed. And with the drain placement, It's at the low point. I jack up the RF for a couple minutes to get any extra out of the ND bearings (there's actually oil between them), then lower it back down to finish.
NOTE:
Jacking the RF isn't required. But all of our superchargers, with or without a drain trap a little bit of oil between the two bearings in the nosedrive. Jacking up the RF for a minute or two will help drain this out as well.

Reposting my original, as I'd like to see more M62's do this, and see someone find the best workable spot for an M90:



The fitting I chose is rated for 6000psi @ 70°F, or 100psi @ 250-400°F. Nosedrive temps from the WCBF crew (thanks to the Bullet) peaked at 160°F after each run on a 100°+ day. So a 200° rating would be safe (considering your fitting or valve, if you choose to do this, would be somewhat in the moving airstream).

Centerpunch your start hole:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...ren/drain1.jpg


Drill a pilot hole:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...ren/drain2.jpg


Notice how it will overlap the ridge? And pick up the 'low spot'?
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...ren/drain3.jpg


Drill with a letter "R" drill:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...ren/drain4.jpg


I missed by a tidbit, but it'll all work out in a minute or two:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...ren/drain5.jpg


Tap with a 1/8-27 (NPT) tap:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...ren/drain6.jpg


Test fit:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...ren/drain7.jpg


These 3 pics show how I shaped a 'cup' or 'pickup channel' to make sure it fully drains:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...ren/drain8.jpg

https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...ren/drain9.jpg

https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...en/drain10.jpg

The angle you want for an M62 to be able to gain easy access. Roughly 'aimed' at the end of the ND shaft:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...en/drain11.jpg

Seal appropriately. I'm using the red goop. We're all familiar with that stuff.
I made some minor changes to the drain hardware before install:


Starting the mess yesterday:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/weekend1.jpg


Bo was bored, but enjoyed the brief lapse in the foul weather:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/weekend2.jpg


5 months of running doesn't look too bad. SC outlet gasket lifted off in one piece:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/weekend3.jpg


Belt dust? From the Accessory belt. Tensioner was weak. It's running with a new one now, upgraded to a 3.25" oversized pulley to make up for the smaller Alt pulley
(this is with a GATES belt I might add, the Gatorback on the other path is fine):
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/weekend4.jpg


Water injection (even with infrequent use) keeps SC rotors pretty clean, doesn't it?
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/weekend5.jpg


New drain for the nosedrive:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/weekend6.jpg


Another view of the drain:
https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/weekend7.jpg

This install was Jan 29th, nearly a year ago. Never dripped a drop, and works great.

SSEimatt93 10-18-2006 11:09 PM

This an an EXCELLENT Series one mod.
Especially once you are spinning the SC at insane rpms in comparission to stock..you need to change that oil a bit more..not necessarily because it requires it, but, its a nice peice of mind...M90s are a DREAM to change in comparission..but with this mod, you're laughing

willwren 10-18-2006 11:13 PM

There's a nasty side-effect. That brand new coupler I installed on Jan29th started showing signs of failure about 2 months ago. ;) Purely a result of the 2.0" pulley, but what this means for the drain is that I'll use it only once a year, then have to pull the nosedrive for a coupler change.

Drain it at 6 months, pull at 12.

SSEimatt93 10-18-2006 11:21 PM

I kinda figured that 2" would be hard on the coupler..something about..idle to WOT in short burps..that i think MIGHT be hard on it.. :lol:

BillBoost37 10-19-2006 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by SSEimatt93
I kinda figured that 2" would be hard on the coupler..something about..idle to WOT in short burps..that i think MIGHT be hard on it.. :lol:

You might have something there Matt....

M90's are nice to change in comparision the the M62, no doubts there.

PURENVY 10-19-2006 08:47 PM

Willwren is this with an OEM coupler or a ZZP "Green" one?

SSEimatt93 10-19-2006 09:37 PM

ZZP/Intense Coupler
im sure its cheaper than an OEM Eaton coupler and easier to get your hands on.
Plus u can get the nifty Service kits from INTENSE 8)

OLDsman105 10-19-2006 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by SSEimatt93
ZZP/Intense Coupler
im sure its cheaper than an OEM Eaton coupler and easier to get your hands on.
Plus u can get the nifty Service kits from INTENSE 8)

He is asking if the coupler will "killed" was a stock one or the revised ZZP coupler.


Yes it was a green unit :shock:

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SSEimatt93 10-19-2006 10:00 PM

Bill had an oem coupler..
in 2002? :lol:
That was on his FIRST supercharger as well.
A car like his requires a few.
Gotta test shit out u know eh!

DarkStar 10-19-2006 10:49 PM

Zilla's OEM supercharger (since ported and polished) now lives on Driverjohn's 92 SSEi If I'm not mistaken.

The coupler in the Zilla's CURRENT SC was installed when that Gen3 swap was installed in January of this year.

It was a ZZP coupler, and is in no way defective. The abuse the 2.0" Pulley applies to the coupler is the sole reason for the early failure.


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