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Cookie 09-08-2004 10:36 AM

bolt supercharger onto non SC engine?
 
Hello, I'm new to this forum but have had my Bonney ("Clyde") since 1997. Apologies in advance, as I'm sure this has been covered before, but the "search" function brought back too many results.

I have a 96 Bonney with out the supercharger, but with the plastic intake manifold that is famous for rotting out. Can I replace the plastic intake manifold with a supercharger? Is a simple swap, involving only a longer serpentine belt, or do I need to change out the computer as well?

The answer I want to hear is, "Sure, it is doable, you just wont have as much power as a factory SC car because of the computer, heads, etc. But you will have more power than stock, and you won't have to worry about coolant in your oil anymore."

Thanks in advance!

Kennginn 09-08-2004 10:38 AM

its doable but there is a lot more to it then that its easier doin a engine swap

willwren 09-08-2004 10:43 AM

There are more than 100 unique parts between the L36 and L67. It's far cheaper and more reliable to do a full L67 swap. And nobody has even attempted the partial job yet. It's not worth it.

http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/techinfo/?article=43

300sflyer 02-03-2005 11:38 AM

I have a 96 SSE that I was considering converting to an SSE"I" as well, that is until I found this tread... :( Oh well... Its still a real; nice car as is! :)

llBlazin_llLo 02-03-2005 12:23 PM

There is always the ZZP L36 M90 Kit coming out for under $1000.

Click Here for a link to a topic a BC about this subject.

300sflyer 02-03-2005 04:15 PM

Intersting! :shock: 8) If I understand correctly, this kit would allow the use of the stock supercharger [m90], on a stock 3800 series 2 engine, or am I wrong?

Thanks
Mike

Sol 02-03-2005 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by 300sflyer
Intersting! :shock: 8) If I understand correctly, this kit would allow the use of the stock supercharger [m90], on a stock 3800 series 2 engine, or am I wrong?

Thanks
Mike


That's the plan for it.

300sflyer 02-04-2005 12:57 PM

Heres a quote from "Zooomer" on another website. Looks like we need to start gathering parts... :) :wink:

1-21-05 Updates

We have this kit as one of our #1 priorities. We have been slaving trying to get things together.

Issues we have been running into:

1. misfire at idle. Solved by changing the angle of the injector. Creates a need for more modification on the blower.

2. KR safety, kits are going to be shipped in stage 1 form with a 4.2" pulley. This will give 4.5-5lbs of boost on a stock GT. This is the highest we feel comfortable doing with stock injectors. Premium gas will be required.

3. Model year specifics. Nearly every year of car requires slight changes to the kits. This is complicating our production and making layout a little more complex.

4. Fuel rails. More modifications of our fuel rails are required than originally thought. Newer cars require a different fuel rail bracket and different FPR than older ones.

5. Parts. We are having a hard time stocking up on L67 intakes and other parts we need for the kits.

All kits will shipped with a modified version of our stage 1 blower. While the M90 is on the CNC to get the mod's needed to make it fit in the ASS application we're going to add programming for our stage 1 blower porting. This will help reduce KR and add value to the kit w/o adding much in cost.

We're working now on setting up pricing and options for stage 1 and up kits. The FAQ will be large, initially all questions should be posted on ClubGP. We will have a list of what parts we use to make these kits and how much $ you can take off the price if you send in parts first.

to get guys who want to collect parts a list here is what we use:

older style cast iron coil pack bracket. (we modify this and all years will need it)
Gen 3 m90 blower
L67 lower intake
ZZP modular pulley hub

At this time those are the only parts I can give a for sure on. We won't be ready to ship on Feb 1. In the next few days I should have a revised estimated ship date, progress report on the kit and preorder date.

300sflyer 02-09-2005 12:35 PM

Looks like the kit will indeed be available soon.

http://zzperformance.com/whatsnew1.php?id=23

fantastic88 02-13-2005 01:07 AM

I thought for sure some Grand Prix Gt guys already had them. :wink:


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