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Hans 01-25-2007 04:42 PM

My headlights dont turn off EVEN WITH foglights off
 
My DRLs dont work, instead of just the headlights being turned on, all the lights are turned on....this also means my HUD is in "night mode" in bright sunlight....Also the dash lights are red all the time. the switch works, and is off but all the lights on the car turn on the instant the key is put in the ignition.

Is there an easy way to test the ambient light sensor on the dash as I assume that is why the headlights are turning on? I'm guessing its stuck "closed" or shorted meaning its not seeing the light of the day.

Or could this possibly be a problem with the DRLs not working so the headlights are always on?

I probably need to get a shop manual ASAP..but I'm looking for places to start troubleshooting this one.

edit:
*FOG LIGHTS ARE TURNED OFF*

toastedoats 01-25-2007 04:53 PM

turn off the fog lights ;)

when the fog light switch is on, is sets the interior lights to "night mode"

Hans 01-25-2007 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by toastedoats
turn off the fog lights ;)

when the fog light switch is on, is sets the interior lights to "night mode"

do you have to restart the car for the changes to take effect?

Pearl_bonnie02 01-25-2007 05:15 PM

no, just press the fog light button, and everything should be fine ;)

Hans 01-25-2007 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Pearl_bonnie02
no, just press the fog light button, and everything should be fine ;)

If that actually works..maybe I should stay away from the 2000 as I'm too dumb to drive it. :lol:

Pearl_bonnie02 01-25-2007 05:22 PM

:lol: dont feel bad, it took me 3 days to figure that out

Hans 01-25-2007 07:51 PM

same problem with the fog lights off...

toastedoats 01-25-2007 07:59 PM

is it dark out now? or atleast dark enough to have the lights pop on?

Hans 01-25-2007 08:01 PM

Its dark right now....but earlier it was 3pm and light. Thats when I made sure the fog lights were off..they were. I turn them on and off and no change.

toastedoats 01-25-2007 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Hans
Its dark right now....but earlier it was 3pm and light. Thats when I made sure the fog lights were off..they were. I turn them on and off and no change.

how about the wipers?

Hans 01-25-2007 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by toastedoats

Originally Posted by Hans
Its dark right now....but earlier it was 3pm and light. Thats when I made sure the fog lights were off..they were. I turn them on and off and no change.

how about the wipers?


what about them? they work just fine. ;)

toastedoats 01-25-2007 08:15 PM

the lights come on automatically with the wipers as well

Hans 01-25-2007 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by toastedoats
the lights come on automatically with the wipers as well

Well the wipers have only been used once to test them when I first got the car, other than that they have been off?

Any ideas of where to start troubleshooting this problem?

toastedoats 01-25-2007 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Hans
Any ideas of where to start troubleshooting this problem?

would you believe me if i said the ECC module?

Hans 01-25-2007 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by toastedoats

Originally Posted by Hans
Any ideas of where to start troubleshooting this problem?

would you believe me if i said the ECC module?


I'm willing to try anything at this point, I want my HUD in the daytime. Where is the module located at? What should I check?

toastedoats 01-25-2007 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Hans

Originally Posted by toastedoats

Originally Posted by Hans
Any ideas of where to start troubleshooting this problem?

would you believe me if i said the ECC module?


I'm willing to try anything at this point, I want my HUD in the daytime. Where is the module located at? What should I check?

ok, lemme look at my book and see what i can come up with

you mentioned a couple other electrical issues as well, correct? what else is going on?

Hans 01-25-2007 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by toastedoats
you mentioned a couple other electrical issues as well, correct? what else is going on?

The random security light, the possible faulty ground for the sender unit (still cant get the backseat off to check for sure), heated seat not working, but I dont think these are related.

Cheetah 01-25-2007 08:48 PM

He has had the car less than a week, and he done broke it :lol:

IF your light sensor is setup the same way it is on the 96-99, it may be bad. Pull it out and wrap foil on the bottom of it put in back in.

Hans 01-26-2007 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Cheetah
IF your light sensor is setup the same way it is on the 96-99, it may be bad. Pull it out and wrap foil on the bottom of it put in back in.


I'm a bit confused, what does the foil do?


Anyone know how to test the light sensor?

Archon 01-26-2007 08:27 PM

This is a description of the system's operation.

DRL & Twilight Sentinel

You could try pulling the sensor and do a resistance check. See if it varies with the amount of light that hits it. In the 96-99, putting a short across the sensor prevents the sensor from turning on the headlights. I don't know if anyone has tried it on the 2000+ to see if it works.

If you'll notice in the description, it also controls the delayed outside lighting at night, and your A/C load control, so you'll be affecting more than just the headlights if you short it out. Whether the contol module will like that, or not - I guess the only way to tell would be to try it. I'd prefer to test it with a variable resistor, instead. Or simply replace the sensor. I think that it's only $20 - $25 at the dealer..


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