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Adding a second Battery and using it only to power the Audio is still the best way regardless of the Big 3, 5, whatever. It allows the audio amp to immediately compensate when what it'* amplifying requires sudden frequency changes. An alternator can't react quick enough to not degrade sound. Too many people only see the power aspect and not the quality of sound situation. As music changes notes and volume within a song, it requires different power output. The amp has to have a reliable full time power source to make frequency transitions smoothly. Not wait for the Alt to sense and step up the voltage.
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I am not in anyway saying the Big 3 isn't a good thing. But I see people picking and choosing/debating all the time. Each item had a specific value in making a good system. It'* not a matter of one over another. It'* about covering all your bases, or don't bother.
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I am not in anyway saying the Big 3 isn't a good thing. But I see people picking and choosing/debating all the time. Each item had a specific value in making a good system. It'* not a matter of one over another. It'* about covering all your bases, or don't bother.
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thanks a lot everyone. I just have a few more questions. 1. What amp would be perfect to push these subs without over or underpowering them? If you can link me to something from sonicelectronix, that would be great. 2. Should I add an extra battery in the trunk or not? lol. 3. Does anyone around here build boxes and can tune one to the specs of the sub? I'd be willing to pay for it as long as it'* a reasonable price. This is partially a Christmas gift to me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank guys
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I was planning on getting 2 Kicker CVR'* *These to be exact* http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...al+4+ohm-.html . would I need to replace my alternator to accompany these subs? Like I've previously said, I want the minimum amount of dimming in my car. And I also don't want to burn out my alternator. Would a battery in the trunk help at all?
I can't imagine you having much dimming at this power level so long as you buy a quality amp so I think another battery would be a good idea since your alternator shouldn't be stressed too bad.
Buddy of mine has a 2004 Impala with a 4th order bandpass box that'* ported through the armrest in the backseat that will blow your wig back It'* not a pretty box at all, no plexiglass, no neons, nothing fancy about it but it gets down with the best of them
If you get a properly designed and built ported box it shouldn't be overly boomy. My sub sounds controlled and accurate, and not to mention quite loud. Bandpass boxes can sound good if they are designed and built right, but are difficult to do and not feasible for the average Joe.
Well when u add a second battery ur alt is trying to keep both charged, if u install an isolator then ur system is only running off the batt in the trunk and u can still experience voltage drop.... but dont quote me just yet... gotta check my notes. i reserched this topic a while backbut i got a chitty memory.
So doing a big 3 upgrade and larger alt does more than adding a second batt or a cap
So doing a big 3 upgrade and larger alt does more than adding a second batt or a cap
Adding a second Battery and using it only to power the Audio is still the best way regardless of the Big 3, 5, whatever. It allows the audio amp to immediately compensate when what it'* amplifying requires sudden frequency changes. An alternator can't react quick enough to not degrade sound. Too many people only see the power aspect and not the quality of sound situation. As music changes notes and volume within a song, it requires different power output. The amp has to have a reliable full time power source to make frequency transitions smoothly. Not wait for the Alt to sense and step up the voltage.
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I am not in anyway saying the Big 3 isn't a good thing. But I see people picking and choosing/debating all the time. Each item had a specific value in making a good system. It'* not a matter of one over another. It'* about covering all your bases, or don't bother.
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I am not in anyway saying the Big 3 isn't a good thing. But I see people picking and choosing/debating all the time. Each item had a specific value in making a good system. It'* not a matter of one over another. It'* about covering all your bases, or don't bother.
What amp would be perfect to push these subs without over or underpowering them? If you can link me to something from sonicelectronix, that would be great. 2. Should I add an extra battery in the trunk or not? lol. 3. Does anyone around here build boxes and can tune one to the specs of the sub? I'd be willing to pay for it as long as it'* a reasonable price. This is partially a Christmas gift to me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank guys
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...al+2+ohm-.html
Since those subs can handle about 800rms for the pair, I highly suggest the AudioQue AQ1200. It is an underground brand that has been making noise lately and for all the right reasons, their product means business! No pretty logo'*, no fancy cases, no neons or other bling, just a rock solid product that'* as dependable as they come and for an affordable price. Their amps are underrated too, so while this amp is rated at 1200rms @ 1 ohm, it can do well over 1400 rms with the proper electrical to feed it. You can have this amp for $250 shipped direct from the manufacturer, it will put out 870rms x 1 @ 2 ohms. And should you ever decide to upgrade your subs, you'll still have more power on tap as if you get the right subs you can wire them down to 1 ohm to get 1200+rms out of this thing.
http://www.audioque.com/aq/?page_id=26
Those would be my suggestions
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As for the box (forgot about that), I highly suggest you get in touch with Mike at Ami Creations, that man is a magician when it comes to speaker box design and fabrication. He can ship you a completed box for $190, or the same box but you would assemble it per his enclosed instructions and finish it (carpet or paint) for $95. Hit him up, he'll tell you all about it.
Mike.AmiCreations@gmail.com
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you are a LIFE SAVER! now, if I could ask one more thing of you. Can you link me to everything that is essential in building this system such as the wiring I would need. I plan on going with the subs you linked me with and most likely that amp. especially for that price for the amp, you can't go wrong. are there any amps on sonic that would go with these subs perfectly without over or underpowering? thank you so much for your help.
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Alright. I found these that I have my eyes on. http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...7DCVR122-.html. So adding an extra battery is what I should do? No cap? What type of wiring do I need for the subs and the amp? Does the amp that was posted previously still good enough for these? I want to power them perfectly. No underpowering.
These are the same ones correct?
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...07DCVR122.aspx
The reason I ask if because Sonic is out of stock and I want to order them soon.
These are the same ones correct?
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...07DCVR122.aspx
The reason I ask if because Sonic is out of stock and I want to order them soon.
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Alright. I found these that I have my eyes on. http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...7DCVR122-.html. So adding an extra battery is what I should do? No cap? What type of wiring do I need for the subs and the amp? Does the amp that was posted previously still good enough for these? I want to power them perfectly. No underpowering.
These are the same ones correct?
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...07DCVR122.aspx
The reason I ask if because Sonic is out of stock and I want to order them soon.
These are the same ones correct?
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...07DCVR122.aspx
The reason I ask if because Sonic is out of stock and I want to order them soon.
To hook up your amp you need an amp wiring kit, they usually have power/ground/remote/speaker wire, fuse and fuse block, some even include rca'*, distribution block, zip ties, connectors, etc. The AQ1200 accepts 4ga power wire maximum, so you're gonna need a good 4ga. amp wiring kit.
Right now, if you order this Rockford CP4CKDS kit for $80, you'll get a free upgrade to this Kicker HyperFlex 09ZCK4 kit that has everything you'll need to get that amp wired up and making noise!
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Alright, so I've finally made my decision. I will be getting the CVR'* http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...ual-2-ohm.html along with this box http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...ay-Carpet.html . I will be ordering everything in a few days when I get back from Florida. Now, I need to know what I should do because I will be installing them once I receive them. I'm ordering the amp as well. I believe this is the amp... http://www.audioque.com/AQ1200D-Amplifier_p_30.html .What I need to know is what exactly should I do to my car as in electrical. My bonne for some reason drops voltage when at an idle or when turning the wheel. I don't want it to damage my system. I need a lot of help. . Also, if that amp isn't as good and you can find something better, for around the same price, suggestions are welcome. One more thing, if that bandpass box isn't as good either, suggestions are also welcome but I am mainly looking for a bandpass box. I've heard nothing but good things about them and have seen my cousins sony Xplod turned into a half decent sub. haha. Please, I need help. Thanks guys.
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Sorry to double post, but I went on onlinecarstereo and found other bandpass boxes. I found this one http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...er_PBP212.aspx and this one http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...er_BPR212.aspx . Can anyone tell me which one is best for the Kickers? I'm looking for the best possible bass I can get with a bandpass.
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Alright, so I've finally made my decision. I will be getting the CVR'* http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...ual-2-ohm.html along with this box http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...ay-Carpet.html . I will be ordering everything in a few days when I get back from Florida. Now, I need to know what I should do because I will be installing them once I receive them. I'm ordering the amp as well. I believe this is the amp... http://www.audioque.com/AQ1200D-Amplifier_p_30.html .What I need to know is what exactly should I do to my car as in electrical. My bonne for some reason drops voltage when at an idle or when turning the wheel. I don't want it to damage my system. I need a lot of help. . Also, if that amp isn't as good and you can find something better, for around the same price, suggestions are welcome. One more thing, if that bandpass box isn't as good either, suggestions are also welcome but I am mainly looking for a bandpass box. I've heard nothing but good things about them and have seen my cousins sony Xplod turned into a half decent sub. haha. Please, I need help. Thanks guys.
As for bandpass boxes, they can be good, real good, but i've yet to hear a prefab bandpass that did. If you're dead set on a bandpass, I highly suggest you hit up Ami Creations and have him either build one for you or see if he can do up a DIY one for you, on the DIY boxes he cuts the panels, marks where the holes should be drilled and you just gotta drill, glue and screw and you have a custom made box. Or, if you can cut and build it yourself, he does designs only too and will provide you with a cut sheet.