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Custom88 06-08-2004 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by randman1

Originally Posted by Custom88
Sometimes the security light will even stay on when the car is running without the key in it. (being sustained by the remote start system.) Is that wierd, or what?

Yea, that is wired. To me that sounds like an ECM problem, unfortunately. When the ECM sees an incorrest resistance upon crank, it will not allow the engine to start. When it encounters a problem otherwise, the security light will come on and be steady even while driving.

That's what it is doing. :( The Security light is always on, even when driving. It will go off for a while sometimes, but most of the time it will stay on and never turn off. Wierd, huh?

randman1 06-08-2004 12:48 AM

Wierd, yes. Sucks? Yes!

I've installed many remote starters in my days and have seen your problem only in a couple of GM vehicles.

vital49 06-17-2004 08:10 AM

Did you ever get your ignition issue remedied? I'm having an erratic starting issue in my 93 as of late. I'm looking into adding those resistors now.

Custom88 06-17-2004 10:34 AM

it's still not working perfectly, but atleast now I can start the car 95% of the time with the key. if I know I'm in a hurry and can't afford to be late I use the remote start to start it. If I can afford the little extra time, I take my 19/20 chance that it's going to start. It's much better than it had been, before it was the other way around, it would only start 1 out of 20 times. lol. still don't understand why it sometimes doesn't start, but atleast it works as much as it does.. One little question for people who know these cars though, in the VATS PASS-KEY sheathing under the column, there were 3 wires in there, not just two.. I used the two wires that were the same color, and left the third one alone. anybody know what this third wire is for? (It's the same 22 gauge size, and I believe it was blue in color. the other two were shades of gray)

SSEi_MN 06-19-2004 12:48 AM

custom88, im gogin through this now too... $500 parts and labor to fix the ignition cylinder... and its a $17 part...

mine worked half the time i tried to start it then 3 days ago it starts like 10% of the time so i gotta get it fixed now. dont want to get stranded anywhere.

it just sounds a little tricky to install....

Custom88 06-24-2004 02:17 PM

I think I installed mien wrong to be honest. It still doesn't start all the time (and it should considering I did the pass-key work around.) and now my cruise control doesn't work (haven't tried using it since I've done this.) I think I might have cut the wries to the cruise control but I'm not sure. I didn't only have 2 wires under my dash that were small (22 gauge) and going into my column, I had more like 5. :cry: I probably got the wrong ones.

randman1 06-24-2004 07:11 PM

I think you may have the wrong target wires too, Custom. The VATS "harness" is usually bright orange in color but in some GM vehicles it is black. There will only be two very small gauge white wires in the tubelike harness. This would explain why you're still having difficulty starting and cruise doesn't work.

Custom88 06-25-2004 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by randman1
I think you may have the wrong target wires too, Custom. The VATS "harness" is usually bright orange in color but in some GM vehicles it is black. There will only be two very small gauge white wires in the tubelike harness. This would explain why you're still having difficulty starting and cruise doesn't work.

Only problem is when they installed the remote starter they removed the colored sheething over the VATS wires. So now I can't tell which ones they are. :cry: I can't really tell where they tapped into the VATS wires either in their install. They must have down it way down from the column. argh. I am dreading spending the 2 hours tearing my dash apart enough to get to teh column. :'(


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