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phoenix_flame220 08-08-2004 02:23 PM

Gain equalization
 
With the gain amp in my 90, is there some type of equalization curve bult into it? like a LOUDNESS function to make the bass louder? I want to use the gain control as an input for my sub amp, but I dont want to go through all that and have bloated sounding bass. Is there a way to bypass the gain amp and use the slide switch only with the pre outs on my deck?

fuddyduddy121 08-08-2004 05:47 PM

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phoenix_flame220 08-08-2004 10:41 PM


Well, the gain switch has a varying voltage from 2 to 6 volts as you slide it from min to max. But it works this way with an 8 volt input given to it by the factory subwoofer amp. I'm not sure what you would get if you hooked 12 volts to the lever...
OK, would it be correct in assuming that if I hook up the Gain input to my 4 volt pre-outs on my deck, that I will get a resulting 1-3 volt output at the rear speakers? And is the output signal as flat as the standard output from the deck? I am worried that it has some sort of midrange bass-boost or something like that

fuddyduddy121 08-09-2004 07:53 PM

What are those 4-volt pre-outs for? The gain lever is really designed for electric resistance, I wouldn't put sound through it.

phoenix_flame220 08-09-2004 09:29 PM

I was going to send the signal from my preouts through the gain wiring in the dash and then bypass the amp. that way I could use the gain slider to control the input going to my sub amp. And still be able to use the line-level inputs. The whole point of this is so i can use the factory wiring as much as possible so I dont have to run new wires, and use the gain switch as a sub control. I want to bypass the gain because I think that it woudnt sound as good as if I used any factory parts (other than wiring)

fuddyduddy121 08-09-2004 11:24 PM

See, the lever controls the amount of bass amplification that the stock bass amplifier puts out, so I think you would have to run the signal through the stock amplifier.

beckstyle 08-10-2004 06:43 PM

I dont think that you would have to go to the gain amp. I think that you could just bypass that, convert the wires going into it to RCA or not (your pref, depends on your sub amp) and run those to the back for the amplifier and subs.

phoenix_flame220 08-10-2004 07:16 PM

how does the gain slider control the amp? Does it cut the input signal or does it activate an internal volume control inside the amp?

fuddyduddy121 08-10-2004 09:09 PM

That, I am not sure. :(

DJ SHO 08-12-2004 08:34 AM

The slider control is still a potentiometer, meaning it could be used for attenuating any analog signal within it's current and voltage limits. I beleive the control has has a plug with four wires on it, two most likely for the mono sub signal, and two for the nighttime backlighting of the control face.

phoenix_flame220 08-19-2004 12:23 AM

So i should be able to run the signal from my cd player through the slider switch to the subs amp, correct? ill have to do some tests on the slider I think...

glanghus 08-24-2004 12:10 PM

The slider is a potentiometer, a variable resistor. Although I forget what it's value is (1, 10, 100k ohms), you might be able to run your pre-outs directly though it. It's made to handle very small amounts of power, maybe even your 4 volts.

The problem: It responds flatly, not on a curve, so it may not do what you want it to. Variable resistors are also selected specifically for an application (since there are many types and values), not vice versa. It won't probably have the range you want in volumes, and probably won't start or end at the right volume, either. If it does work, it might turn out to be very precise, too precise to use.

The point is that someone should try it, and if it doesn't work like everyone wants, let us know. I can get together with some people and design some circuitry to complement it so it does what everyone wants it to do, since it is becoming a pretty popular request.

phoenix_flame220 08-31-2004 01:29 AM

Does the gain amp have an equalizer built into it? or will it output the same signal as goes into it, just at a higher voltage?

BonneMeMN 08-31-2004 10:55 AM

People have used the Gain slider to control their amps output levels. Basically you buy an amp that has a remote knob for bass boost. Some RF have these for instance. Then you put the slider on the cable, instead of the knob.


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