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rarodrig 03-01-2006 05:01 PM

Found NEW wiring Harness for 2000+ for aftermarket receiver
 
I was emailing all techsupports to try and find a harness that will eliminate all of the headaches installing an aftermarket HU in our newer bonnevilles! And finally I have an answer! The Scosche company made a harness called the GMO7B which some of you heard of and used however many mods have had to be made to receive power to the HU! Now they have a brand new harness (IT ABOUT TIME) called the dcGM14B that is not even in stores yet or updated on any sites including their own. Now i have not tried this harness YET im going to order it soon! The main reason being (R U READY FOR THIS!?!) it cost $119.95!!!! So, im letting everyone know in case you can afford to purchase it now, but like i meantioned i am going to buy myself so for all who would rather wait and see if it works first, i will post a result upon installation!
Anyone wanting to follow up on my research www.scosche.com
tech support 800-363-4490 ext.3 (ask about dcgm14b wire harness)

toastedoats 03-01-2006 05:06 PM

that is great news!

however, i would never spend 120 bucks to hook a head unit up in my car..

rarodrig 03-02-2006 03:18 AM

i know, i agree but i guess im doing it for the good of the bonneville community! Plus, i know in the future when its on the market, it wont cost that much cause like you said no one will buy it, i know it is that price now cause it is not marketable yet (the guy from techsupport had to transfer me to sales to find out the price cause he didnt know yet and when i talked to sales they asked if i was a dealer cause that is the only ones purchasing these at this time) and you know the general public wont spend that much, thats the price of average HUs nowadays!!

BillBoost37 03-02-2006 07:29 AM

It is a high price, however it's bound to come down when the demand shoots up.

BlackIce 03-02-2006 01:41 PM

I'm confused as to why this is a big deal. Metra/Axxess has offered this solution for quite some time now. Scosche's interfaces are actually Peripheral Electronics' unit with their own sticker on it.

(Edit) The only thing that this unit could possibly do over the existing pieces is integrate with the Class-2 controlled Bose and Monsoon amps. If this unit does this then its worth the $120 price tag, otherwise Metra's piece can be had for around 70-80. Non premium sound equiped cars wouldn't need the addition.

toastedoats 03-02-2006 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by BlackIce
(Edit) The only thing that this unit could possibly do over the existing pieces is integrate with the Class-2 controlled Bose and Monsoon amps. If this unit does this then its worth the $120 price tag, otherwise Metra's piece can be had for around 70-80. Non premium sound equiped cars wouldn't need the addition.

good point, i didnt even consider the monsoon/bose interface...

rarodrig 03-03-2006 12:53 AM

the metra/axxess unit only applies to bvilles upto 99! 2000 and up need a RIBBON HARNESS, not a pin style harness, example the gm07b which can be viewed at

http://www.cardomain.com/item/SCOGM07B

however as i meantioned b4 this does not work, you would need to find an alternate 12v source

toastedoats 03-03-2006 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by rarodrig
the metra/axxess unit only applies to bvilles upto 99! 2000 and up need a RIBBON HARNESS, not a pin style harness, example the gm07b which can be viewed at

http://www.cardomain.com/item/SCOGM07B

however as i meantioned b4 this does not work, you would need to find an alternate 12v source

well, it DOES WORK, you just have to find a 12+ power wire to run to the radio... Im interested as to the scoche solution to the power hook up

BlackIce 03-06-2006 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by rarodrig
the metra/axxess unit only applies to bvilles upto 99! 2000 and up need a RIBBON HARNESS, not a pin style harness, example the gm07b which can be viewed at

http://www.cardomain.com/item/SCOGM07B

however as i meantioned b4 this does not work, you would need to find an alternate 12v source

I make my living as a mobile electronics installer. I use the Axxess GMOS05 piece in my 05 GXP. It does everything sans amp integration including On-Star retention and RAP 12v output. To bypass the amp I used a Metra 70-2056 harness, the main obsticale in that is the Monsoon amp crosses over the audio, so exteral cross-overs are required.

A20H 03-07-2006 09:34 PM

I also used both the Axxess GMOS05 and the Metra 70-2056 (I took the wires from that and bypassed the factory amp right to my aftermarket amp was easier than running all of the wires to the back of my radio) I got my GMOS05 for about $50 and the metra for a bit less than that off of ebay. They work great except for the occasional time that the dang door chime sticks on and I have to take the key out and restart the car to get it to stop

bonnevillemac 03-12-2006 12:00 AM

I don't know how to bypass the monsoon or the bose amps, but I do know from personal experience that the Metra harness GMRC-04 will work for the 00+. I have one in my car and as it has been posted only cost 70-80 bones. And it also keeps the retained accesory power (RAP) and all the bells and whistles the car is supposed to have.


Tim

excessive81 03-14-2006 09:33 PM

so you did not have to run a seprate 12 volt + to the radio with the metra kit? i hate the door chimes but i would like not to have the wire running to the radio that should be in the harness but since there is not power to the ribbon how is it getting power to the radio?

BlackIce 03-14-2006 11:27 PM

The factory radio harness does have a constant 12v (battery) lead in it. In reference to running new wire we're talking about a switched accessory lead (only powered with the key on) GM thought it wise to integrate the radio into the vehicle's computer system, and in the processes employes the use of a computer signal to turn on the radio verses a simple accessory wire as been used since companies have been putting radios into cars. The Metra/Axxess/Scosche/PIE aftermarket radio integration adapters create this accessory wire that would be required to turn on an aftermarket head unit saving you the trouble of fusing and routing a lead yourself.

My professional advice

With anything other than an entry level head unit (and even still there would be benefits) I would suggest running your own constant feed from the battery as well as using a relay to provide extra accessory current for the new radio. The created accessory output from the radio interface box is usually only about 2 amps and in my opinion not enough to get the job done in a lot of installations.

bonnevillemac 03-18-2006 10:18 PM

I have installed stereos in my own cars for about 15 years. The factory leads have always been sufficient for what ever I wanted to do. In fact I had a Jeep Wrangler with a PPI A600 running 4 Kicker 10's, with a Kicker Impulse 350i running my mids and highs and had no problems with the wiring.

The only time I did have to use a relay was with a 89 GMC Jimmy. I had a Clarion 8571 with the same PPI A600 running two punch 12's and a Phoenix Gold 1 farad cap. When I installed a clarion EQ, it kept popping fuses, I went to my installer and he wired up a relay for me, never had any more problems.

I can understand why you would recommend running a relay if It is a fairly large system, but why run a separate 12 volt constant, and on a entry level head??

Tim

BlackIce 03-19-2006 03:15 AM

Common with installs now, you often have external devices daisy chained to the radio. For example, my car has aftermarket XM, Sirius and iPod adapters, which all draw power directly from the head unit through the DIN cables. Yeah, its only a few extra amps of current, but when I know the system is going to be expanded upon I prefer to play it safe and plan the install accordingly. Many cars offer 10A accessory circuits and that would be sufficiant, but when using these databus interfaces in cars such as our Bonnevilles we only end up with a few amps. I can actually draw on experience related to this. I once had installed a Pioneer AVIC-N1 into an 04 Sierra using a databus interfaced and had to send the unit out for service twice for the same problem, within a mater of days the fusable accesory link in the Pioneer harness blew leaving the unit with a dead main board. After that I've desided to take the extra few minutes and use a relay in situations similar to this and haven't had issues since. Now if I was installing a plain jane CD player, with nothing else attached to it then I'm not going to use the relay.

The benefit of running a new constant lead (and chassis ground for that matter) is to eliminate ripple voltage. OEM radio harness are often linked to a handful of other sub systems and computers which can lead to "dirty" power. Its usually very apparent when installing video equipment as you'll often see scrolling lines. Your car audio equipment is no different then your big screen TV or computer, with clean power you get better results and the equipment will last longer.


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