how many time have you noticed when in a parking lot you hear a horn honk factory car alarm and you see a somebody playing with keys which got your attention?

and then when you hear a aftermarket car alarm siren and you dont even look?

atleast for me a Aftermarket Car alarm is pointless unless you have a horn honk option and its hooked up

man, i never look anymore... then again, my neighbors alarm goes off at random throughout the night and keeps me awake... oh well, alarms w/pagers > all

I've recently noticed, too, that if an alarm is going off, no ones cares. Shoot, that person could be breaking into the car, pretending they lost they're keys or something, and no one would care. I'd actually like to see some numbers that prove car alarms actually work as well as we think they do (obviously, if the alarm is eminating from a $100+k sports car, everyone notices....but not everyday cars).

If I was a criminal (and I suppose not all are as bright as us here at BC, lol) I'd let that thing ring while I broke in, cause it'* no big deal. Which is too bad.

I have to admit, every time I hear a car alarm go off in my lot, I hope it gets stolen, as horrible as that sounds. Audible car alarms are no longer effective at burglars, and is just a nuisance to the surrounding population. What'* worse is that these idiots put the loudest alarms on their worthless Civic DX'* and Corollas.

There was something I remembered learning about in psychology three years ago, called something like dissolution of responsibility (or something like that...any psych majors please correct me) in large groups. Basically, when you're in a certain population, you tend to assume that "somebody else" will take care of a problem happening in the immediate vicinity. For example, a woman was murdered in her home while 17 neighbors heard her screams, yet nobody called the police because each neighbor had assumed that somebody else had called. Psychologists had performed an experiment to test this theory, and they found out that if a researcher feigned a heart attack on a sidewalk with only few (or one) other people around, he was likely to receive immediate attention. However, if he feigned a heart attack on a busy street corner with many people present, he was less likely to receive any attention at all.

So I think audible alarms are ineffective because we have been desensitized to them, even angered by them, and in addition, our group psychology doesn't really make us help in those situations. I would much rather focus time and money on other theft deterrents, such as ignition/fuel cutoff, wireless trackers, etc.

Nobody every looks at alarms now... that'* why I went with 2way communications systems for my rides.

but the horn honk is a must feature

Honk stock is good...but that pattern aftermarket alarm...bah, I dont even flinch...and we're all on the same page with that right?

No one steals these cars anyway....still the most stolen car in North America is the 1991 Toyota Camry

Think about it this way!
There has been a few of bonnie-break ins posted in the last year or so, Mostly for decks/speakers/amps... Wernt all of the break-ins through the little windows in the back? If there was a good alarm on those vehicles that went off when the windows where broke the equipment probably wouldnt have been stolen.

cuz burglars get scared at noise

Even before the noise.... put plenty of LEDs on the car.....
If they know it'* armed, chances are they'll stay away and look for an easier target.