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Jrios 02-01-2004 02:43 AM

thrasher CAI installed
 
I purchased a used thrasher intake. I had to customize it some because even if I just trimmed it. It would have covered half the hole on the fender. So, as you tell I added some extra panels to take care of it.

http://community.webshots.com/user/jrios126

its under Bonneville pics

markwb 02-01-2004 07:38 AM

Nice fabrication job, looks good.

mremer 02-01-2004 09:50 AM

looks good, welcome to the CAI club!

Check out my walkthrough. Is that a K&N filter, or a K&N "style" filter?

http://ectinc2.members.atlantic.net/cai.htm

dbtk2 02-01-2004 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by mremer
looks good, welcome to the CAI club!

Check out my walkthrough. Is that a K&N filter, or a K&N "style" filter?

http://ectinc2.members.atlantic.net/cai.htm

I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, but why does it matter if it is a K&N filter or a K&N "style" filter? They all flow the same anyways. Some actually flow BETTER than the K&N.

Shawn

TaylorD 02-01-2004 10:48 AM

Looks good. Fit's better than mine for now. I want to seal mine up like that come track season, I 'll aslo wrap it up with that insulation stuff. nice job.

Also nice firebird 473.4 HP and 459.1 TQ. That things a monster!!!! Take it to the track ever?

mremer 02-01-2004 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by dbtk2

Originally Posted by mremer
looks good, welcome to the CAI club!

Check out my walkthrough. Is that a K&N filter, or a K&N "style" filter?

http://ectinc2.members.atlantic.net/cai.htm

I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, but why does it matter if it is a K&N filter or a K&N "style" filter? They all flow the same anyways. Some actually flow BETTER than the K&N.

Shawn

I was just curious...geez. My filter is a K&N, and the one in his pictures looked a little different.

When I was purchasing my Thrasher setup, the place that I ended up buying it from cautioned me while shopping: A lot of vendors sell the Thrasher CAI with a 9" K&N "style" filter, and not a K&N filter.- I did'nt like the verbage they were using for selling their product, found it to be a little dishonest; since I was looking for a K&N filter.

I am not getting into a debate about different filter air flow, and which one is better. As far as I am concerened anything after-market is an improvment. I hope you were'nt looking for an argument: I hate to disappoint.

2000SilverBullet 02-01-2004 01:57 PM

Very nice fabrication job. :D
You did a good job sealing it up and mounting the PCM low enough to make full use of the fender hole. Now wrap it up with some insulation to keep it even cooler. You woudl be surprised, on a hot summer day idling in traffic, how much it heats up inside that engine bay. Can you say 200*F :!:

There is nothing wrong with some other quality brands of cone filters. K&N are sometimes overrated.....and overpriced. :wink: Viva competition. :lol:
S&B beat them to the punch with their open ended design and they have flow tests to prove they flow as much if not more than K&N.
.....just trying to spark a few flames. 8)

dbtk2 02-01-2004 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by mremer
I was just curious...geez. My filter is a K&N, and the one in his pictures looked a little different.

When I was purchasing my Thrasher setup, the place that I ended up buying it from cautioned me while shopping: A lot of vendors sell the Thrasher CAI with a 9" K&N "style" filter, and not a K&N filter.- I did'nt like the verbage they were using for selling their product, found it to be a little dishonest; since I was looking for a K&N filter.

I am not getting into a debate about different filter air flow, and which one is better. As far as I am concerened anything after-market is an improvment. I hope you were'nt looking for an argument: I hate to disappoint.

I wasn't looking for an argument, I was just curious why you were asking because some people are tricked into thinking that the K&N is going to flow better, when in reality all of the K&N style filters flow nearly the same as and sometimes even better than the K&N filters, and with the K&N filter you usually are just paying for the name.

Shawn

Sol 02-01-2004 02:57 PM

That intake looks nice.

Do you notice the difference from stock?

2000SilverBullet 02-01-2004 03:43 PM


That intake looks nice.

Do you notice the difference from stock?
I'll let you know but it will be hard to really tell about the intake mod because I haven't started the engine for the last month since I started the shift kit, intake seal and header job. A lot of changes all at the same time. Guaranteed there will be an improvement. :wink:

PontiacDad 02-01-2004 04:44 PM

Good looking intake, nice fab job 8)

Jrios 02-01-2004 04:47 PM

[/quote]Is that a K&N filter, or a K&N "style" filter?

Yes it is a K&N filter. It is the X-stream filter.

[/quote]Also nice firebird 473.4 HP and 459.1 TQ. That things a monster!!!! Take it to the track ever?


Yes, I have only running 450rwhp on street tires I was trapping 119mph. I am in the process of changing the fuel system and upgrading supercharger hoping to reach my goal of 525-550rwhp and rwtq :twisted:

Now wrap it up with some insulation to keep it even cooler. You woudl be surprised, on a hot summer day idling in traffic, how much it heats up inside that engine bay. Can you say 200*F [/quote]

I will definintely look into that.


That intake looks nice.

Do you notice the difference from stock?
I also pulleyed up the car to 3.4 pulley so I could not tell you for sure. The 2 things I did notice was I don't have to give it much gas to get it going and you can really hear the supercharger now.

But I had a problem now I can hear the car detonating at WOT around 4500rpms. I will be changing my sparkplugs to one step cooler trying to take care of this.

Jrios 02-01-2004 06:16 PM

Sorry for all the quote errors in my previous post it was the first time I tried using it.

Also, thanks a lot for all the compliments. I was very happy with the overall fit and finsh when I was done.

2000SilverBullet 02-01-2004 07:52 PM


But I had a problem now I can hear the car detonating at WOT around 4500rpms. I will be changing my sparkplugs to one step cooler trying to take care of this.
How can this be? The PCM will retard the timing to avoid knock long before you will ever hear it. :?
Are you sure it's detonation you are hearing :?:

Jrios 02-02-2004 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by 2000SilverBullet

But I had a problem now I can hear the car detonating at WOT around 4500rpms. I will be changing my sparkplugs to one step cooler trying to take care of this.
How can this be? The PCM will retard the timing to avoid knock long before you will ever hear it. :?
Are you sure it's detonation you are hearing :?:

I'm pretty sure it is detonating. I am going to test this by running 100 octane sometime this week.

Rogue 02-02-2004 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Jrios
I also pulleyed up the car to 3.4 pulley so I could not tell you for sure.

Technically it would be pullyed DOWN but who is nit-picking...(me?)

As for the detonation if that is what you are hearing than there is majorly something wrong. Your PCM should pull timing long before you HEAR detonation. Do you have a scantool to check for sure?

Jrios 02-02-2004 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue

Originally Posted by Jrios
I also pulleyed up the car to 3.4 pulley so I could not tell you for sure.

Technically it would be pullyed DOWN but who is nit-picking...(me?)

As for the detonation if that is what you are hearing than there is majorly something wrong. Your PCM should pull timing long before you HEAR detonation. Do you have a scantool to check for sure?

I have a EFI Live for my Trans Am. Which I tried on the Bonneville but it doesn't seem to work. So, I figured my only other option is to run higher octane gas and see if I still hear that noise..

Rogue 02-02-2004 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Jrios

Originally Posted by Rogue

Originally Posted by Jrios
I also pulleyed up the car to 3.4 pulley so I could not tell you for sure.

Technically it would be pullyed DOWN but who is nit-picking...(me?)

As for the detonation if that is what you are hearing than there is majorly something wrong. Your PCM should pull timing long before you HEAR detonation. Do you have a scantool to check for sure?

I have a EFI Live for my Trans Am. Which I tried on the Bonneville but it doesn't seem to work. So, I figured my only other option is to run higher octane gas and see if I still hear that noise..

Take a long screwdriver, put 1 end to your valve covers and the other to your ear with a cupped hand. Move it along the valve cover and see if you hear loud or excessive ticking, could be a lifter, or a rod you hearing. Also with the intake you might be hearing the injectors a little more clearly. Can you describe when you hear the sound and what it sounds like?

Jrios 02-02-2004 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue

Originally Posted by Jrios

Originally Posted by Rogue

Originally Posted by Jrios
I also pulleyed up the car to 3.4 pulley so I could not tell you for sure.

Technically it would be pullyed DOWN but who is nit-picking...(me?)

As for the detonation if that is what you are hearing than there is majorly something wrong. Your PCM should pull timing long before you HEAR detonation. Do you have a scantool to check for sure?

I have a EFI Live for my Trans Am. Which I tried on the Bonneville but it doesn't seem to work. So, I figured my only other option is to run higher octane gas and see if I still hear that noise..

Take a long screwdriver, put 1 end to your valve covers and the other to your ear with a cupped hand. Move it along the valve cover and see if you hear loud or excessive ticking, could be a lifter, or a rod you hearing. Also with the intake you might be hearing the injectors a little more clearly. Can you describe when you hear the sound and what it sounds like?

It sounds like a ticking noise. Which only happens when I go WOT sometimes around 4500 to 5000 rpms. But you maybe right about me hearing more now that I put the CAI. I never really though about that.


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