Trouble w/my 1995 SSE, it has a P0117 code UPDATE it's back
After I replaced all my coolant hoses I went ahead and installed a 180deg stat. I also replaced my coolant sending unit and cleaned the Throttle body, Ideal Air control valve, Mass Air Flow sensor and I replaced all the vacuum fittings in the area around the filter assembly.
Everything seemed fine after I finished, the car drove great, but I did have a SES light on the dash that I didn't have before any of this work. The next day I noticed the gas pedal felt like it was stuck (wouldn't go down) until I tapped on it with my foot a little harder than usual but the car still drove great (still having an SES light). The next day I noticed it did the same again, I had to bump the pedal to free it up then it was fine. Anytime the car sits a little while it sticks, it never did this before I cleaned the Throttle body. I did remove the Throttle plate when I was cleaning it so I'm thinking it's not aligned right anymore. But now the car is running bad. While driving the RPMs will go very high and if your in grear it want to drive it's self, also, sometimes it's harder to start when hot and the car smells like gas now. So I checked the codes and found two of them P0117 : Coolant Temp Sensor Signal Low P0406 : Linear EGR Pintle Position , Position Error I cleared the codes and now I only have the P0117 code coming back. I replaced the sensor with a Delco part from my dealer. Maybe it's bad, I don't know. I still have the old one I removed and I will reinstall it tomorrow and see if it clears the code. I have an Actrorn CP9190 so last night I data logged everything and this was what it shows, any ideas? Could the low coolant temp/ sensor be causing me all these problems other than the stick throttle plate in the closed position? CODES PRESENT..............NOF 2ND GEAR SW..................OFF 3RD GEAR SW..................OFF 4TH GEAR SW..................OFF AC CLUTCH .....................OFF AC HEAD PRESSURE ......NORM AC REQUEST...................OFF BATTERY VOLTAGE.......13.3V LT FUEL TRIM...................142 LT FUEL TR CL.................5 CC BRAKE SW.................OFF CC ON/OFF SW................ON CC RES/ACC SW..............OFF CC SERVO (%).................0 CC VACUUM SOL.............OFF CC VENT SOL...................OFF EVAO DUTY (%) ..............0 EVAP SOLENOID...............OFF MIL.....................................ON COOLANT (DEG F)............-31 EGR REG (%) ....................0 EGR VALVE POSITION (v)..0.76V EGR VALVE POSITIN (%) ..0 ENGINE RPM .......................3175 KS COUNTER .....................122 EXHAUST 02.......................RICH FCI RELAY..........................OFF FC2 RELAY ........................OFF IAC POSITION .....................121 IDLE REQ RPM ....................1150 INJ PW (MS) .......................3.5 ST FUEL TRIM.....................128 KNOCK RET (O)..................O LOOP STATUS....................OPEN MAF (gr/S) .........................12 IAT (DEG F).........................95 02S (mv)..............................892 02S CROSSCNTS................0 PNP SWITCH........................P/N PROM ID...............................5764 RUN TIME..............................06:45 SPARK ADV (o)...................30 TCC APPLIED .......................NO TCC BRAKE SW...................ON TCC DUTY CYC (%).............0 TCC SLIP RPM......................235 TCC SOLENOID....................OFF THROTTLE (%)....................0 TPS SENSER (v)..................0.53v TRANS TEMP (DEG F).........180 VEH / SPEED (MPH).............24 |
Got it fixed today :D It was the connection at the coolant sensor that caused all those problems, car thought it was to cold. I unplugged it and plugged it back in and all is good now. I'm not sure why the connection was not good the first time because it was plugged in all the way. I did have a lot of die-electric grease in there, maybe too much??
No more SES light and the car is running like it did before I broke it :lol: Except for the throttle plate that sticks after it sits over night until you bump the throttle once to free it up. When I reinstalled it I aligned it until it closed all the way. Is that correct? Is there some sort of a better way to align it? |
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P0117 came back today on the way to work :? I also got a P0705 (PRNDL Switch failure code.) :? I hooked up my scanner and also found that I'm having a random misfire issue. (no code for this problem yet) Cylinder 3 and 6 seem to do it most but I did see 4 doing it as well. Maybe some others are doing it not sure yet.
Car has New plugs and wires, AC DelcoNew Ignition module (couple months old), AutoZone One new coil pack (couple months old), AutoZone--other two are older and from Advance Auto New Cooling sensor, Ac Delco Just cleaned the throttle body, IAC and MAF The problems started after I cleand the throttle body and replaced the Cooling temp sensor. I noticed a slight miss driving to work today also probably related to the random misfire I seen earlier. It happend aroung 62mah light throttle. When I stopped a 7-11 I had a lot of trouble getting the car to restart and run right. The first two times I was able to start it it ran very bad. It stalled out both times and had a strong rich odor coming from the exhaust. :? |
Was the coolant sensor replaced because of a problem with it? If it worked ok, you may want to try reinstalling the old one and see if things improve. Also, carefully check the wiring leading to the sensor.
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Originally Posted by Archon
Was the coolant sensor replaced because of a problem with it? If it worked ok, you may want to try reinstalling the old one and see if things improve. Also, carefully check the wiring leading to the sensor.
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Perhaps the new sensor has an intermittent connection internally. Putting the old one back in could say whether that was the case. If so, then you can perhaps get a refund or replacement on the new one. Is this on the '95 or the 02? Does the '95 two sensors? One for the guage and one for the computer? Frankly, I don't know when they changed that.
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Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, one sensor, it has three wires. One of them feeds the dash and another one feeds the cpu. I am guess the third wire may be a ground, not sure.
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Originally Posted by whitecrystal1
The problems started after I cleand the throttle body and replaced the Cooling temp sensor.
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Throttle body cleaner
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