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Sully1742 12-24-2005 12:16 AM

Merry Christmas! My car won't start!- Update: Fixed...
 
Here's the background info: About 3 weeks ago I had a remote start installed. Other than that, and re-attaching the engine cover, nothing was done under the hood or electronically recently. Did a CAI over a month ago, but I think that's a non-issue. On monday night I was coming home, and I was about a mile from my house, and all of a sudden the interior lights got real dim, and my engine died, then a second later, the lights lit back up and the pedal was responsive. I was worried, so my dad checked under the hood (mainly battery connections) and didn't see anything wrong. On the way to school the next morning, it did the same thing within 2 miles, but then I got to the gas station, but in some gas, and didn't have this problem again. Until tonight. My car did the same stalling thing twice on the way home. I put it in the driveway around two, and went to take it back outa t 8 or 9. I hit the start on the remote to warm it up, saw it start, then 4 minutes later when I came back out, it wasn't running. Then it started up, died, started up died, then wouldnt turn over. I tried to crank it with the key but it made a hideous grinding sound so I stopped and took my parents car. I am going to look at it in the morning, any ideas of things I can check with ym limited knowledge of automobiles? Thanks.

Technical Ted 12-24-2005 08:33 AM

Are you sure it’s not out of gas? Maybe the gas gauge is no longer accurate. I'm just asking because the problem went away for a few days after you added gas.

How old is your battery? Can you swap batteries & see if the problem goes away?

The alternator could also be bad. If the car starts after switching batteries get the alt checked.

BillBoost37 12-24-2005 09:08 AM

Sully.. I'm interested in the hideous grinding noise... and the power loss situations.

To start, check the oil and coolant levels.
Then pull the battery cables off at the battery, check for corrosion. Actually pull them off.

Let us know if you find anything.

Bob Dillon 12-24-2005 10:34 AM

To install the remote starter, you have to bypass the VATS system.

I'm thinking there's an intermittent fault somewhere. I also agree with the gas gauge thought, and would definitely check the fuel filter for blockage as well.

Sounds like the starter is dying, too. Correlation is not necessarily causation, but, it's suspicious that this happened immediately after the remote starter installation.

Keep us informed.

Sully1742 12-24-2005 11:36 AM

Checked the oil, coolant, and put fresh gas in. Took about 4 times and I finally got it to turn over, then it died after 30 seconds. Couldn't get it back up. Calling where I got my remote installed to find out some info.

willwren 12-24-2005 11:37 AM

Doesn't sound like a VATS issue or remote start if it actually started. VATS won't kill a running car. You have other issues IMO.

Bob Dillon 12-24-2005 11:41 AM

Provided you've cleaner the battery cables first, I'd check the fuel filter next. Only takes about 10 minutes, and is a frequent culprit.

Located under passenger rear door inside the frame. About $15. Worth a look

willwren 12-24-2005 11:45 AM

Good point, Bob. And perhaps check your fuel pressure too.

Technical Ted 12-24-2005 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Sully1742
Checked the oil, coolant, and put fresh gas in. Took about 4 times and I finally got it to turn over, then it died after 30 seconds. Couldn't get it back up. Calling where I got my remote installed to find out some info.

Are you saying the engine started & ran for 30 seconds or the starter was working for
30 seconds?

Sully1742 12-24-2005 12:10 PM

I'm skipping the remote all together now. Using the key, I just went out and started it, but I have to give it gas to get it going. Got it to run for a minute or two, then it quit out on me. Subsequent tries to get it running using the same method resulted in shorter run times each try. Talked to the guy at the remote start place and he said he didn't think it was the remote, but I could have it towed there and they could look at it. I don't think it's even the starter at this point, so I will probably have my regular mechanic take it in after the holiday. My dad thinks my rice pipe is to blame and I am going to put the stock airbox back on tomorrow, even though that's been on for a couple months and gave me no problems before. Keep in mind I am very useless with cars, so a lot of the stuff you guys are reccomending is going over my head. Thanks for the help so far though.

PontiacDad 12-24-2005 12:16 PM

The rice pipe should make no difference than the stock air box. Its just filtered air either way.
Maybe you knocked a vacum line loose somewhere? Thats what it sounds like to me, look around the lower intake and throttle body. Follow the line around and make sure all the connections are solid.
Did you set the 'SES" light? Can you scan for error codes?

Bob Dillon 12-24-2005 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Sully1742
Got it to run for a minute or two, then it quit out on me. Subsequent tries to get it running using the same method resulted in shorter run times each try. .

Do yourself a favor. Look at the fuel filter first. It's plugged.

Sully1742 12-24-2005 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bob Dillon

Originally Posted by Sully1742
Got it to run for a minute or two, then it quit out on me. Subsequent tries to get it running using the same method resulted in shorter run times each try. .

Do yourself a favor. Look at the fuel filter first. It's plugged.

I am going to check that tomorrow, weather permitting hopefully. Under the rear passenger door you guys say? I'll dig around and see if I can find some pics or a tutorial on here.

Sully1742 12-27-2005 01:01 PM

Fuel filter didn't do it. :cry: $550 and a new fuel pump later.... God damn, I think that's the last major repair that's going into this vehicle.

willwren 12-27-2005 01:14 PM

$550? OUCH. That pump only cost them 100 bones in parts. Dealer, huh?

Sully1742 12-27-2005 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by willwren
$550? OUCH. That pump only cost them 100 bones in parts. Dealer, huh?

No, family mechanic. I didn't speak to him, so I assume there's more to it.

Hans 12-27-2005 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Sully1742

Originally Posted by willwren
$550? OUCH. That pump only cost them 100 bones in parts. Dealer, huh?

No, family mechanic. I didn't speak to him, so I assume there's more to it.

jeeze that is rape.


:roll:


it is only a 4 hour job on our cars for the most part. Even the most expensive dealer here charges 70 an hour.

banned3800 12-27-2005 04:51 PM

I did my own work...


$120 For an AC Delco Pump and Sock

$10 for a new fuel filter

And a couple of hours to fight the tank out, install the new pump and reinstall the tank...

It was a PITA.... But I was glad to save the $$$

Glad to hear you got it fixed tho.. Nothing like having fuel pressure
;)

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lash 12-27-2005 07:14 PM

I feel your pain Sully. I got the royal reaming myself earlier this year. Except mine was more complicated and WAY more expensive. I got my raping at the dealer and it made me walk funny afterwards... :twisted: They charge almost $90/hr down here.

Ah, well, live and learn....

banned3800 12-27-2005 08:27 PM

Yeah one of my coworkers from a good while back had a Fuel Pump die while her, her husband and son were on a trip... It cost them a totall of $700, Tow parts and labor.... Labor costs... :cry:

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