Engine Kill 94 Bonne
01-30-2003, 11:37 PM
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Engine Kill 94 Bonne
Hello everybody, I just joined this club, and hope to be a long lasting member.
My problem with my car, is that it has a real bad floating tank. When it gets to a little under a quarter tank, and I slow down and stop, or turn, the gas gage reaches below Empty. When this happens, my car just kills completly, and I have to drop it to neutral or park to start it again and get going. This can create a real problem when your taking a curve at 60 and your car shuts off and power steering shuts off. It'* happened before.
I was just wondering if anyone has heard of this problem, or has any input for me.
My problem with my car, is that it has a real bad floating tank. When it gets to a little under a quarter tank, and I slow down and stop, or turn, the gas gage reaches below Empty. When this happens, my car just kills completly, and I have to drop it to neutral or park to start it again and get going. This can create a real problem when your taking a curve at 60 and your car shuts off and power steering shuts off. It'* happened before.
I was just wondering if anyone has heard of this problem, or has any input for me.
01-31-2003, 12:29 AM
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Dillon, go here:
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...pic.php?t=2025
Sounds like 1992 wasn't the only year.
Welcome to the forum!
http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/...pic.php?t=2025
Sounds like 1992 wasn't the only year.
Welcome to the forum!
01-31-2003, 02:04 AM
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:( Damn. I read that earlier, before I wrote mine. Wasn't sure if by stall he meant shut off though.
Oh well though, I guess it'* an insentive to always keep my tank full :?. Been doing that for like 4 months now.
I need to post a picture of my bonne. I just got the stock gold rims off. I put on some Dante 17'*. 225/55/17 Generals are the tires. Looks pretty good.
Oh well though, I guess it'* an insentive to always keep my tank full :?. Been doing that for like 4 months now.
I need to post a picture of my bonne. I just got the stock gold rims off. I put on some Dante 17'*. 225/55/17 Generals are the tires. Looks pretty good.
01-31-2003, 03:07 AM
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Looking forward to the pics! If you decide to tackle that fuel prob, we're all here to help. Sounds like you've got a pretty good support group going already 
Once again, it'* great to have you here.
Once again, it'* great to have you here.
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Here'* one TSB on this problem.....
Fuel Gauge Problems 92/93
Fuel Gauge Goes to Empty When the Fuel Tank Is Full
Bulletin Number: 93-8-10
Reference Number: 308102
Publish Date: 2/93
Subject:
FUEL GAUGE READS EMPTY WITH FULL FUEL TANK (INSTALL 2000 OHM RESISTOR IN PARALLEL W/FUEL SENDER)
Models Affected:
1992-93 PONTIAC SSE AND SSEI
CONDITION:
Some 1992-93 Pontiac SSE and SSEI vehicles may exhibit a condition where the fuel gauge needle goes to empty when the fuel tank is completely full. If this occurs, the chime sounds and the "CHECK GAUGES" message comes on the display. After a short period of time (30 seconds to 10 minutes of driving), the gauge will recover and begin working again.
CAUSE:
The cause of this condition is a high resistance build-up on the fuel tank sender. The cluster interprets this high resistance (typically 105 ohms) as an electrical fault and sends the fuel gauge needle to empty.
CORRECTION:
The condition may be corrected by installing a 2000 ohm (2 kohm) resistor in parallel with the fuel sender.
DIAGNOSIS AND REPAIR:
Refer to section 8A-81 in the Service Manual for circuit details.
1. If the owner explains that the fuel gauge goes to empty when the fuel tank is filled then begins working after some time, follow steps 2 through 9 below. If the fuel gauge is at empty all of the time, follow the diagnostic procedures in the Service Manual for the cause of the condition.
2. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
3. Remove the lower rear seat cushion.
4. Locate the conduit on the left side of the car and expose the Purple (circuit # 30) and Black/White (circuit # 803) wires. Be careful to get the correct wires since there is also a purple/white wire in the opposite bundle.
The correct purple and black/white wires are in the wiring bundle that has the clear level ride line (ELC) in it.
5. Strip back about 1/2 inch of insulation from each wire as shown in Figure 1. Do not cut the wires.
6. Solder one end of the resistor to the purple wire and the other end to the black/white wire as shown in the figure. A 1/4 or 1/2 watt 2000 ohm resistor is recommended. However, the resistor can be from 1800 ohms (1.8 kohms) to 2200 ohms (2.2 kohms). You can buy this resistor at your local electronics store. Radio Shack normally carries a 2.2 kohm resistor.
7. Tape the connections to prevent any electrical shorts.
r to section 8A-81 in the Service Manual for circuit details.
1. If the owner explains that the fuel gauge goes to empty when the fuel tank is filled then begins working after some time, follow steps 2 through 9 below. If the fuel gauge is at empty all of the time, follow the diagnostic procedures in the Service Manual for the cause of the condition.
2. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
3. Remove the lower rear seat cushion.
4. Locate the conduit on the left side of the car and expose the Purple (circuit # 30) and Black/White (circuit # 803) wires. Be careful to get the correct wires since there is also a purple/white wire in the opposite bundle.
The correct purple and black/white wires are in the wiring bundle that has the clear level ride line (ELC) in it.
5. Strip back about 1/2 inch of insulation from each wire as shown in Figure 1. Do not cut the wires.
6. Solder one end of the resistor to the purple wire and the other end to the black/white wire as shown in the figure. A 1/4 or 1/2 watt 2000 ohm resistor is recommended. However, the resistor can be from 1800 ohms (1.8 kohms) to 2200 ohms (2.2 kohms). You can buy this resistor at your local electronics store. Radio Shack normally carries a 2.2 kohm resistor.
7. Tape the connections to prevent any electrical shorts.
8. Put the wires back into the conduit, install the rear seat pad, and connect the battery.
9. Turn the ignition and verify the fuel gauge works correctly.
WARRANTY INFORMATION:
Operation No.:
T5338
Labor Time:
.4 Hr.
Fuel Gauge Problems 92/93
Fuel Gauge Goes to Empty When the Fuel Tank Is Full
Bulletin Number: 93-8-10
Reference Number: 308102
Publish Date: 2/93
Subject:
FUEL GAUGE READS EMPTY WITH FULL FUEL TANK (INSTALL 2000 OHM RESISTOR IN PARALLEL W/FUEL SENDER)
Models Affected:
1992-93 PONTIAC SSE AND SSEI
CONDITION:
Some 1992-93 Pontiac SSE and SSEI vehicles may exhibit a condition where the fuel gauge needle goes to empty when the fuel tank is completely full. If this occurs, the chime sounds and the "CHECK GAUGES" message comes on the display. After a short period of time (30 seconds to 10 minutes of driving), the gauge will recover and begin working again.
CAUSE:
The cause of this condition is a high resistance build-up on the fuel tank sender. The cluster interprets this high resistance (typically 105 ohms) as an electrical fault and sends the fuel gauge needle to empty.
CORRECTION:
The condition may be corrected by installing a 2000 ohm (2 kohm) resistor in parallel with the fuel sender.
DIAGNOSIS AND REPAIR:
Refer to section 8A-81 in the Service Manual for circuit details.
1. If the owner explains that the fuel gauge goes to empty when the fuel tank is filled then begins working after some time, follow steps 2 through 9 below. If the fuel gauge is at empty all of the time, follow the diagnostic procedures in the Service Manual for the cause of the condition.
2. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
3. Remove the lower rear seat cushion.
4. Locate the conduit on the left side of the car and expose the Purple (circuit # 30) and Black/White (circuit # 803) wires. Be careful to get the correct wires since there is also a purple/white wire in the opposite bundle.
The correct purple and black/white wires are in the wiring bundle that has the clear level ride line (ELC) in it.
5. Strip back about 1/2 inch of insulation from each wire as shown in Figure 1. Do not cut the wires.
6. Solder one end of the resistor to the purple wire and the other end to the black/white wire as shown in the figure. A 1/4 or 1/2 watt 2000 ohm resistor is recommended. However, the resistor can be from 1800 ohms (1.8 kohms) to 2200 ohms (2.2 kohms). You can buy this resistor at your local electronics store. Radio Shack normally carries a 2.2 kohm resistor.
7. Tape the connections to prevent any electrical shorts.
r to section 8A-81 in the Service Manual for circuit details.
1. If the owner explains that the fuel gauge goes to empty when the fuel tank is filled then begins working after some time, follow steps 2 through 9 below. If the fuel gauge is at empty all of the time, follow the diagnostic procedures in the Service Manual for the cause of the condition.
2. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
3. Remove the lower rear seat cushion.
4. Locate the conduit on the left side of the car and expose the Purple (circuit # 30) and Black/White (circuit # 803) wires. Be careful to get the correct wires since there is also a purple/white wire in the opposite bundle.
The correct purple and black/white wires are in the wiring bundle that has the clear level ride line (ELC) in it.
5. Strip back about 1/2 inch of insulation from each wire as shown in Figure 1. Do not cut the wires.
6. Solder one end of the resistor to the purple wire and the other end to the black/white wire as shown in the figure. A 1/4 or 1/2 watt 2000 ohm resistor is recommended. However, the resistor can be from 1800 ohms (1.8 kohms) to 2200 ohms (2.2 kohms). You can buy this resistor at your local electronics store. Radio Shack normally carries a 2.2 kohm resistor.
7. Tape the connections to prevent any electrical shorts.
8. Put the wires back into the conduit, install the rear seat pad, and connect the battery.
9. Turn the ignition and verify the fuel gauge works correctly.
WARRANTY INFORMATION:
Operation No.:
T5338
Labor Time:
.4 Hr.
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