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srgetz 08-07-2005 12:37 PM

Engine codes P0404 & P1414 - what to do?
 
I am getting the following codes, just bought a scanner. What to do, can the EGR be cleaned instead of replaced?
P0404 Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Open Position Performance
P1414 Says something like "Emissions Controller"

markwb 08-07-2005 02:46 PM

Re: Engine codes P0404 & P1414 - what to do?
 

Originally Posted by srgetz
What to do, can the EGR be cleaned instead of replaced?
P0404 Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR)
P1414 Says something like "Emissions

The EGR valve can be removed and cleaned. Look for deposits around the seat & pintle, then clean. The pintle needs freedom to operate and shoudn't stick.
The EVAP system is trying to tell you something, not sure of that DTC 1414 though. You may have a vacum leak, or one of the valves in the evap sys are failing. Or gas cap is not holding vacum. Could be any number of things, but there's a few ideas.

LakevilleSSEi 08-07-2005 02:53 PM

P 0404 = EGR System Performance
Will Set off a SES light

P 1414 = None existant. Sure it's not a P 1404 or 1441?

EGR Valve Closed or EVAP System Flow Durning Non-Purge?

srgetz 08-07-2005 02:59 PM

Forgot to mention, the car is stumbling out of the hole, especially cold. I am guessing the valve is stuck open and causing the poor performance?

LakevilleSSEi 08-07-2005 03:08 PM

Sounds like it's sticking shut actually....the EGR also helps to warm the intake air....To warm the motor up quicklky.

srgetz 08-07-2005 04:01 PM

Thanks for all the info so far. So will the EGR cause this performance problem, the hesitation? What if I just unplug it? Any pros / cons to that?

BillBoost37 08-07-2005 04:35 PM

If you just unplug it'll give you a light.

Attempt the cleaning and use a fresh gasket. Also try plugging and unplugging the connector about 5 times.

srgetz 08-07-2005 10:03 PM

Well ok, but what I mean is can unplugging it help with the hesitation and can it harm anything? I don't care if the check engine light is on for now....

markwb 08-08-2005 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by srgetz
Well ok, but what I mean is can unplugging it help with the hesitation and can it harm anything? I don't care if the check engine light is on for now....

I don't believe that disconnecting the EGR will have any affect on the hesitation, nor will it do harm to the engine, but I would restore to normal asap.

srgetz 08-09-2005 08:31 PM

OK - I unplugged it as I don't have time to clean it yet. The hesitation went away completely :)

What does this indicate? Is is safe for the engine and emissions system to leave it unplugged? will cleaning the EGR still be worthwhile?


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