GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Chev, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat
Go Back   GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Chev, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat > GM Brands & Mechanical - Maintenance > Performance & Brainstorming
Register GM Pictures GM Buy & Sell Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Performance & Brainstorming Talk about modifications, or anything else associated with performance enhancements. Have a new idea for performance/reliability? Post it here. No idea is stupid! (please use Detailing and Appearance for cosmetic ideas)


 

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-04-2009, 06:17 PM   #1
Danthurs
Administrator



Certified Bonneville Nut
 
Danthurs's Avatar
 
I am: Dan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sheboygan Wisconsin
Posts: 28,453
Total Props: 11
Default What order should I MOD my engine

This is little more then a suggestion of the order to MOD your engine. This is my opinion and I encourage others to add to this to help new members. This is just a guide.

Cold air intake, or fenderwall intake with a good filter such as K&N.

180* thermostat, this is optional.

Drop pulley size, no smaller then 3.5"

colder spark plugs, 1 or 2 rangers colder

PCM upgrade, performance tune

Shift kit

Some type of scan gauge that reads KR (Knock Retard)

Exhaust upgrades
Series 80 muffler, or series 40 if duels.

Free flowing cat

Powerlog front manifold, or PEMs Best a good set of headers such as TOG

Valve train
Rockers, such as 1.9:1 roller rockers

valve springs, No higher then #105 springs

Oil restricted push rods

CAM (do research on this to find best choice)

New timing chain, sprockets, and tensioner

Advanced upgrades

Port and polished LIM

Port and polish heads

Port and polish supercharger Gen5 if possible

larger throttle body port and polish

Larger injectors

Transmission rebuild. Lower gears.

Intercooler

NOS.

Lets here thoughts on this list.
__________________
Dan
SAVING THE WORLD ONE BONNEVILLE AT A TIME


1997,1998,2000,2005 year confused Bonneville SSExi. Stock? ish.

ADMIN @ http://www.f150-forums.com/

Last edited by Danthurs; 01-04-2009 at 11:50 PM.
Danthurs is offline   Reply With Quote
+ 0 -

Sponsored Links - Subscribe to remove this ad.


Old 01-04-2009, 11:15 PM   #2
Bonneville'n
Senior Member
SSEi Member
 
Bonneville'n's Avatar
 
I am: justin
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Newtown CT.
Posts: 192
Total Props: 0
Default

What exactly is knock retard
Bonneville'n is offline   Reply With Quote
+ 0 -
Old 01-04-2009, 11:21 PM   #3
Danthurs
Administrator



Certified Bonneville Nut
 
Danthurs's Avatar
 
I am: Dan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sheboygan Wisconsin
Posts: 28,453
Total Props: 11
Default

It's when you have preignition. If the air fuel ignites before the spark plugs fire you can chip the piston, among other things. When the knock sensors detect knock they will tell the PCM to pull timing to protect the engine. When you have KR you need to address that problem by reducing heat and pressures.
Danthurs is offline   Reply With Quote
+ 0 -
Old 01-04-2009, 11:40 PM   #4
kaplamj
Junior Member
 
I am: Michael
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Libertyville, Il.
Posts: 4
Total Props: 0
Default

Dan,

Who makes a good PCM upgrade for this vehicle. I have a 1992 Bonneville, 3800, series 1.
kaplamj is offline   Reply With Quote
+ 0 -
Old 01-04-2009, 11:44 PM   #5
NWASSEi
Senior Member
SSEi Member
 
I am: Don
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 175
Total Props: 0
Default

Danthers, unless I missed it, you gotta add colder plugs in there somewhere.

Don
NWASSEi is offline   Reply With Quote
+ 0 -
Old 01-04-2009, 11:46 PM   #6
Danthurs
Administrator



Certified Bonneville Nut
 
Danthurs's Avatar
 
I am: Dan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sheboygan Wisconsin
Posts: 28,453
Total Props: 11
Default

This is the only place I can think of.

Sinister Performance, LLC.
Danthurs is offline   Reply With Quote
+ 0 -
Old 01-04-2009, 11:50 PM   #7
Danthurs
Administrator



Certified Bonneville Nut
 
Danthurs's Avatar
 
I am: Dan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sheboygan Wisconsin
Posts: 28,453
Total Props: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NWASSEi View Post
Danthers, unless I missed it, you gotta add colder plugs in there somewhere.

Don

Thanks, just added that in.
Danthurs is offline   Reply With Quote
+ 0 -
Old 01-05-2009, 09:11 AM   #8
BillBoost37
DINOSAURUS BOOSTUS


Certified Bonneville Nut
 
BillBoost37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Enfield, CT
Posts: 41,227
Total Props: 3
Default

To get the most from things, plug changes, etc should be determined by how the car is running and reading the plugs.

The NA motor can benefit early on by porting a lower manfold. Another item for this that won't improve or hurt performance is to plug the coolant to the upper manifold. This will eiliminate the issue of the EGR area cracking and allowing coolant in the UIM to flow into the intake tract.

To start modding though, a first suggestion is to start with a car that is up to speed on maintenance items like brakes, struts etc.
__________________
97 SSEi: In bits and pieces with it's guts spewed across the floor.
00 Regal GS: Turning and burnin

BillBoost37 is offline   Reply With Quote
+ 0 -
Old 01-05-2009, 10:07 AM   #9
Danthurs
Administrator



Certified Bonneville Nut
 
Danthurs's Avatar
 
I am: Dan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sheboygan Wisconsin
Posts: 28,453
Total Props: 11
Default

You are correct. This list assumes you are starting with a firm foundation. Solid engine and transmission, strong brakes and suspension.
Danthurs is offline   Reply With Quote
+ 0 -
Old 02-05-2009, 12:04 AM   #10
FriendSSEI
Senior Member

SSE member
 
FriendSSEI's Avatar
 
I am: Mike
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 123
Total Props: 0
Default

Dan do you know of any members that have the nos setup already. If so that would be great never seen a bonnie setup with it before.
FriendSSEI is offline   Reply With Quote
+ 0 -
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

 
Latest Threads
- by MouSe






All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger
Clubs
Import
Domestic
Other